Thread: Free Internet Will Soon Be DEAD

That'll happen as soon as USA turns communist.

Originally Posted by suttsman

That'll happen as soon as USA turns communist.

More like when Scientology becomes the dominant religion.

Originally Posted by Lëzen

More like when Scientology becomes the dominant religion.

No.... NOOOOOOO!!

Pretty sure I've heard about this before, and it was limited to Australia. I highly doubt it will ever make it to implementation.

No. Australia has an internet filter, completely different.
Yeh I doubt it too, but I wouldn't put it past the money hungry corporate dickwads to do something like this.
I'm with you making the internet RL. That includes CS games and forum flaming. The forums will be parliament meetings.

I'm going to come off sounding like an arrogant jerk,
but anyhow

Ordinary people (stupid people) should not get involved in technical discussions

How many people can honestly say "I know what net neutrality is. I also know the pros and cons of a totally neutral network vs. the pros and cons of a QoS network" ?

A totally neutral network would be shit
I don't want my VoIP call to be dropped because the guy down the road is eating all the bandwidth by streaming an HD film

Likewise, a network based on overly draconian QoS would also be shit
I have paid for my bandwidth, I want to use this an any way I see fit, as long as I'm not degrading the service for others

There's a balance that needs to be struck

It annoys the hell out of me when ignorant people get all pissy over some deeply technical issue they have no understanding of

If I was in charge of an ISP
I would have 4 tiers of service

Tier 1 - Realtime

Communications that happen in realtime need top priority
Spikes in latency must be avoided at all costs

Worst case scenario, drop some packets
Packet lose is not a big issue, but latency must be kept low

Examples:
- VoIP
- Location awareness (GPS, etc.)

Tier 2 - Streaming

Communications that happen in semi-realtime (Ie. streaming content)
Packet lose must be prevented, however latency must be kept within reasonable limits

Examples:
- Online streaming video / audio (Netflix, youtube, etc.)

Tier 3 - General use

General use cases
The bulk of internet traffic would fall into this category

Packet lose must be avoided at all costs, but latency is not a big issue

Tier 4 - Bulk, Non-interactive

Bandwidth heavy comms that happen in the background without user interaction

Examples:
- p2p file transfers

As for the video in the first post....
What a pile of crap

The internet is an international network of networks
There is no conspiracy to overthrow it
The video is just scaremongering

The internet today is basically a necessity, like electricity and water
Without it, businesses suffer vs. their competition
Without it, the eduction of school kids suffer vs. their peers

What I can see happening, is the introduction of a low-cost, limited service of "essential" resources

There is a big push in the UK right now to get essential internet services to everyone in the country

You buy a house, and it comes with an internet service
this service can access essential resources (news, research info, basic web access, etc. etc.)
It will not allow p2p or other "non-essential" services

If you want total access, then you can subscribe to an ISP and pay a monthly charge, as you do today