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      Does marijuana really help? (question)

      I've only smoked once w/ a water bong but i was out in the woods so i wouldn't get caught and i think i had some sort of an anxiety attack because I hated my friends for those 2 hours and i laid on pieces of broken glass until the high wore off.

      Thinking about retrying.. Any thoughts on what happened/what to do next/whether i should or not? Will it actually help me get onto a good track of vivid and possibly lucid dreams?

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      Weed will actually make it harder for you to remember your dreams. c;

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      There are two approaches in using hemp to hang yourself. One is to make rope with it, the other is to smoke it. One just takes a little longer.
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      ? weed does not kill or damage the body in any way...

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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidpersian View Post
      ? weed does not kill or damage the body in any way...
      For most people, whose brain is not part of their body, this is true.
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      Marijuana is actually very detrimental to the lucid dreaming process since it effects memory this will interfere with your dream recall from personal and numerous other persons experiences.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Brandon Heat View Post
      Marijuana is actually very detrimental to the lucid dreaming process since it effects memory this will interfere with your dream recall from personal and numerous other persons experiences.
      Basically this.

      I still smoke though.

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      I would say I'm an experienced smoker and I can personally see a connection between smoking (at night) and big lapses in dream recall. When I smoke before bed I can remember some fragments the next morning, and I'm sure if I started to write them down I could increase my recall with smoking at night. However if you're looking for optimal dream recall I advise against smoking at least 5 hours before sleep. I don't think at this point that less recall from bud is a placebo. That's it's only weakness haha

      In contrast I would like to try experiementin with weed and meditation/WILDing, see in as it gives me a huge amount of concentration and focus. I just haven't made the time..

      Anyways, dude I recommend not smoking if you're easily prone to anxiety and/or don't know how to get caught. Over time once you get more used to the high you'll be more functional and rational but it is bes to get to that point safely without any bad experiences (ie what you posted)

      Hope I helped a little bit!

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      Yea, weed makes it near impossible to lucid dream. I've been able to WILD the morning after smoking, but I don't think I've ever had a DILD after smoking. I've tried smoking before a WILD attempt, but it just made it impossible to fall back asleep.
      I have noticed weed to make my dreams more colorful and slightly more vivid, but the negative effects on recall make this pretty useless. I find it very difficult to remember any dreams other than the last one before waking up, and if I do remember them they are just fuzzy fragments.
      Weed is very detrimental to lucid dreaming. I'm actually taking a break from lucids while I smoke this eighth I bought last week. *takes a couple puffs*

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      I agree with everything everyone said up there... except for Philosopher, who obviously knows nothing about marijuana.
      Holy crap, seriously!?
      Ha!
      I really thought that Philosopher was just bad at expressing himself, but now I know what is REALLY up. I just lost all respect for what I thought was his above-average intelligence that I thought he had. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but damn it if he didn't just try to make the point that marijuana destroys your brain.
      LOL!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      I agree with everything everyone said up there... except for Philosopher, who obviously knows nothing about marijuana.
      Holy crap, seriously!?
      Ha!
      I really thought that Philosopher was just bad at expressing himself, but now I know what is REALLY up. I just lost all respect for what I thought was his above-average intelligence that I thought he had. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but damn it if he didn't just try to make the point that marijuana destroys your brain.
      LOL!!
      You have never been to Thailand, I have, so who is the ignorant one?

      This reminds me of a funny story. We got some newbie in from the states and first thing he did was try to get shipped back. He even tried to fake a suicide so they had to lock him up. So, the gaurds passed him a doobie and he instantly became a true believer, moved off base, . . .. . well, he never felt a thing.
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      Man. I was actually coming back here to rephrase all of that, because I felt bad. But oh well, so be it.

      No I have never been to Thailand. I have also never been to the moon. I have never eaten a Santa hat, and I have never pinched the guy that runs the ticket booth at the Orpheum Theater in Memphis, Tennessee!

      You got me!
      ROFL!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      Man. I was actually coming back here to rephrase all of that, because I felt bad. But oh well, so be it.

      No I have never been to Thailand. I have also never been to the moon. I have never eaten a Santa hat, and I have never pinched the guy that runs the ticket booth at the Orpheum Theater in Memphis, Tennessee!

      You got me!
      ROFL!!
      Then you don't know what good weed is. First time I had just 3 tokes off one, I asked the nearest guy to babysit me because I had no idea of where in the hell I was.

      I quit it a very long time ago because fucking up my mind did not make any sense at all since we cannot think well to begin with.
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      I'm really at a loss for words, to be honest. Not only has Phil assumed that I have never had good marijuana, he is also using the fact that he supposedly has to support his argument that marijuana kills, or causes brain damage.

      I think I'm going to let that statement speak for itself.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      I'm really at a loss for words, to be honest. Not only has Phil assumed that I have never had good marijuana, he is also using the fact that he supposedly has to support his argument that marijuana kills, or causes brain damage.

      I think I'm going to let that statement speak for itself.
      I was just making talk, you are exhibiting signs of insecurity.

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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      I agree with everything everyone said up there... except for Philosopher, who obviously knows nothing about marijuana.
      Holy crap, seriously!?
      Ha!
      I really thought that Philosopher was just bad at expressing himself, but now I know what is REALLY up. I just lost all respect for what I thought was his above-average intelligence that I thought he had. I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but damn it if he didn't just try to make the point that marijuana destroys your brain.
      LOL!!
      This is coming from a smoker.

      marijuana does hurt your lungs and brain. That's a fact. And the only people that say that it does nothing is people who are ignorant or smokes it themselves. It's pretty pathetic, people who smoke cigerets admits that it's bad for them. People like you are ignorant.

      No I do not think that marijuana is worse than cigarets I think that the cigs are worse. But still it makes me SO angry when people who smoke marijuana say "there are no bad things with marijuana."

      Anything that makes you act un normal and forget everything can't be good for you!
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      I agree with everything everyone said up there... except for Philosopher, who obviously knows nothing about marijuana.
      Holy f**k.. you kids are such w*****s..

      What the f**k does a kid like you know about anything?
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      Quote Originally Posted by sloth View Post
      I'm really at a loss for words, to be honest. Not only has Phil assumed that I have never had good marijuana..
      Look.. you're a f******g idiot. What would a young t**t like you know about decent marijuana?
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      Quote Originally Posted by dakotahnok View Post
      marijuana does hurt your lungs and brain. That's a fact. And the only people that say that it does nothing is people who are ignorant or smokes it themselves. It's pretty pathetic, people who smoke cigerets admits that it's bad for them. People lime you are ignorant.
      ERR. Wrong. Marijuana can actually shrink tumors and slow the growth of lung cancer.
      Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows
      And marijuana has no long term side effects.
      Harvard Gazette: Study: Intelligence, cognition unaffected by heavy marijuana use

      You sir, are wrong. The only possible negative side effects would be the fact that it increases heart rate, and blood pressure. But for me that's a non-issue, for some it could be dangerous.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dakotahnok View Post
      This is coming from a smoker.
      Just to clarify, this is ( by his own admission, which is probably total b.s.)..a 14 year-old..

      Quote Originally Posted by dakotahnok View Post
      And the only people that say that it does nothing is people who are ignorant or smokes it themselves. It's pretty pathetic, people who smoke cigerets admits that it's bad for them. People like you are ignorant.
      Learn grammar and proper spelling, oh, and english by the way, and then maybe in 35-40 years you'll be able to assimilate a basic premise. Until then, don't bother.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneiro View Post
      Holy f**k.. you kids are such w*****s..

      What the f**k does a kid like you know about anything?
      Quote Originally Posted by Oneiro View Post
      Look.. you're a f******g idiot. What would a young t**t like you know about decent marijuana?
      Settle down, Tupac; you don't need to bite the kid's head off.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneiro View Post
      Learn grammar and proper spelling, oh, and english by the way, and then maybe in 35-40 years you'll be able to assimilate a basic premise. Until then, don't bother.
      Attacking someone's grammar rather than their argument makes you look even more immature than the 14-year old.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneiro View Post
      Just to clarify, this is ( by his own admission, which is probably total b.s.)..a 14 year-old..



      Learn grammar and proper spelling, oh, and english by the way, and then maybe in 35-40 years you'll be able to assimilate a basic premise. Until then, don't bother.
      Oh shit the world is going to end.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LikesToTrip View Post
      ERR. Wrong. Marijuana can actually shrink tumors and slow the growth of lung cancer.
      Marijuana Cuts Lung Cancer Tumor Growth In Half, Study Shows
      And marijuana has no long term side effects.
      Harvard Gazette: Study: Intelligence, cognition unaffected by heavy marijuana use

      You sir, are wrong. The only possible negative side effects would be the fact that it increases heart rate, and blood pressure. But for me that's a non-issue, for some it could be dangerous.
      I'm sorry. I have a hard time saying what I mean through text.

      Yes marijuana does a lot of amazing things. I just can't stand anyone who says that there is nothing wrong with it.

      I smoke to so I'm not one of those anti weed people. Lol

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      Marijuana smoke is bad for the lungs, all smoke is bad for the lungs. You know when you go camping, and you're like, "Jeez, bro, the campfire smells great!" - that's bad for your lungs.
      Marijuana has a lot of good uses, they heavily out-weigh the side effects (unlike a lot of prescribed medication), in my opinion. On a side note, I do know someone who is psychologically addicted to weed (as it's possible to become psychologically addicted to anything that can act as an emotional coping mechanism), and his memory is frighteningly bad, and he has a permanent cough ("smoker's cough"). Otherwise, he's pretty damn healthy (and he smokes every day, multiple times a day, and has for the past.. well, around 20 years).

      Anyways, back on topic; weed suppresses REM sleep, the stage in which we dream most vividly/the longest/etc. Weed also affects your short-term memory, as we all know, so your recall in the morning would be awful (not that you'd have many vivid dreams to recall anyways). I don't recommend using it as a lucid aid, it's really not going to help and will just make things more difficult.
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