Thread: Dream Potentiating Herbs Listed

I can't vauch for any of these. I'm just copying it from another list of dream herbs I found.

Acorus calamus
Verbena hastata/officinalis
Artemisia vulgaris
Lactuca virosa

Originally Posted by dodobird

I can't vauch for any of these. I'm just copying it from another list of dream herbs I found.

Acorus calamus
Verbena hastata/officinalis
Artemisia vulgaris
Lactuca virosa
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Calamus seems to do little but make most people puke. : Check the Experience Reports
Lactuca Virosa A.K.A. Opium Lettuce doesn't seem to have any eneirogic properties from what I read here: Lactuca Virosa Experience Reports If you can show me sources proving otherwise then please share them here.

I have heard about the ''supposed'' DreamPotentiating properties of Artemisia Vulgaris A.KA. Mugwort. So I have added it up to my list. I couldn'find any good info on Verbena hastata/officinalis so if you can deliver a link with helpfull inforation especially on it's effects then please post it here too.



I plan to do a series of Oneiric Herbal Experiments with these herbs.
Most European used Herbs I can get them at a local Herbalist shop. Herbs such as Calamus, Wormwood, Hops, Valerian, Mugwort and such.
Most of the rather Exotic herbs, such as Calea Zacatechichi, Silene Capensis, Entada Rheedii, Ilex Guayusa and such, I can easily order from Online Smartshops. I still hve a big bag of Wormwood in my room, as well as Mugwort, Valerian and Hops.

When I have the List Complete, I'm going to try the Exotic/Shamanic DreamEnhancing herbs first. In small doses first then increasing it after every session. I'll Report The Herbs/Substances ingested, Doses, Bedtime, Results, Mindset..etc here in this Topic. Then after I have done that I Will try mixing these exotic and European Herbs and see if I can find some interresting Herbal mixes to work in Synergy to act OneiroGenic. After the right effect is achieved I can try to mix in other herbs to try and make my dreams clearer and more Consciously experienced. But first thing's first.

I'll be doing these experiments together with a Friend to find out if the effects on the dreamstate these herbs may have are Unique to only me or that the effects may be common and the same for the both of us. This way it'll be a tid bit easier to say if it is likely for YOU to experience the same effects as I did from the Experimented herbs.


Well keep more DreamEnhancers comming people. If you can please include a Link with plenty and helpfull informaion on it's effects and the referance that suggests that they're DreamPotentiating in any way

I will try to find the guy that recommended Lactuca Virosa and Verbena and ask him for more info.

Some more things I heard of ( never tried ):

Kava-Kava
very small dose of amanita muscaria ( so small dose no psychoactive effects are felt while awake )
Ajo Sacha
Chacruna without MAOI

This is the post that recommended Ajo Sacha and Chacruna without MAOI:
http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/index.php?...st&p=371760

I can vouch for Kava-Kava and B6.

I took about 3 caps of kava last night for its relaxation properties and this morning noticed that my dreams were extremely logical (the stories werent random and stupid) note that I wasn't using the kava for dreaming, in fact I hadn't even thought about the possibility that it would improve my dreams until this morning I noticed that they were better than usual.
I was actually just about to do another follow-up on kava's effect on dreams tonight.

If it helps...Amazon Botanicals.com states in their info on their "Anxiety" tincture that the anxiety reducing herb Kava Kava damages the liver....i haven't tried Kava Kava... i can vouch for the Amazonian herbs Guayusa and Ajos Sacha enchancing dreaming clarity immensly....

Originally Posted by quickhawk

If it helps...Amazon Botanicals.com states in their info on their "Anxiety" tincture that the anxiety reducing herb Kava Kava damages the liver....i haven't tried Kava Kava... i can vouch for the Amazonian herbs Guayusa and Ajos Sacha enchancing dreaming clarity immensly....
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Is Kava Kava Toxic on the liver? So is alcohol. Hmm maybe that's the reason why Kava Kava is illegal and prohibited here. Most other non-toxic Eco-drugs are available here from mushrooms to Cacti from Ayahuasca to Kratom leaves.

I'll update the list only a little more and I am going to order these herbs to test them with a friend. Right now my Dreamtime is becomming ever more Clear and aware so this would be THE period to text the Oneirogenic properties of these herbs.

Soon I'll Start by ordering Ilex Guayusa, Silene Capensis, Calea Zacatechichi and Entada Rheedii and do them seperately first and later, after recording the results, I'll try mixes of them.

Originally Posted by quickhawk

If it helps...Amazon Botanicals.com states in their info on their "Anxiety" tincture that the anxiety reducing herb Kava Kava damages the liver....i haven't tried Kava Kava... i can vouch for the Amazonian herbs Guayusa and Ajos Sacha enchancing dreaming clarity immensly....
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right...a lot of things are toxic to the liver....currently going into 8th week of the strict social dieta protocols...you know no salt, sugar, fermented. dairy,sex, ect. for me this makes a difference....on another site someone complained of violent dreams...so far nothing in that direction....these plants have brought some profound teachings...and enhanced insight for diagnosing underlying causes of clients spiritual symptoms of ill health and unhappiness....wish you well on your journey....warmly...

well here are the ingredients of the "brilliantdreams pills" and "utopia dream pills". You might try some these ingredients in your experiment, again I can't vauch for any of this.

brilliantdreams:
50mg - Vitamin B5 (not B6)
4mg - Galanthamine from Lycoris Radiata extract (Red Spider Lily)
100mg - Choline
0.5mg - Melatonin

utopia dream pills:
Lotus Leaf
Green Tangerine Peel
Atractylodes Rhizome
Ginger
Bitter Orange
Green Tea
Pinellia
Bupleurum
Vaccaria Seed

I've tried Silene Capensis for the past month, and I've got to say, it's absolutely amazing.

The taste ranks fairly low on the 'god-awful dank' taste scale, much, much better than calea and kava kava. Incidentally, when I used to smoke, I found that having a cigarette right after drinking kava kava tea made the smoke really sweet. Maybe it's because kava tea tastes like ferret ass, making anything else taste better after....

At any rate, Silene has far and away been the best herbal suppliment I've used to date. It takes about two to three days for the alkaloids to build up to the point where they affect the dreamstate, but like I said before, ingestion is fairly painless, so it doesn't matter.

The first fully-blown experience I had with it went like this:

I woke up, and started to get ready for work. When I was putting my shoes on in the foyer, I noticed that the door to my garage wasn't in the wall. I started to laugh, and inspected the wall where the door used to be, thinking that it was some middle-of-the-night drywall prank that my father had dropped by and pulled on me. There were no seams, no signs of recent mudding. Nothing. At that point, I realized that I was dreaming. The intensity was more than usual for a lucid dream, with a sort of deep emotional overtone, a resonance of sorts. I tried to wake myself up, by shouting "WAKE UP!", and banging the wall. All I got was a sore hand, and a reproachful muffled warning bark from my dog. I let him outside to do his business, and followed.

The moon was full, and glowing on the snow. I picked up a handful of snow, and marvelled at the realism as it melted in my hand, observing some individual flakes melt together and dribble down my palm. I heard some scrunching in the yard next to mine, and looked over. There, looming at least fifty feet tall was a giant snowman. I found this hilarious, but was quickly silenced by an obscure emotional wave. This thing was NOT a giant snowman, it just took the form of it. Once again, I tried to wake up, and was unsuccessful. I tried to fly away, to shift the dream, anything. No dice. Just me and this looming snowman. It was then that I remembered that Silene is taken to talk to 'ancestors'...according to the African tribesmen that take it.

"Are...are you an ancestor?", I asked the snowman.

It bent down and looked me over. After it had made whatever judgements it deemed necessary, it replied that it was an ancient, not an ancestor.

It then went on to tell me something that made me black out and wake up thrashing. I still can't remember what it was.

I haven't had anything nearly so grave since then, and my dreams have a sort of magical, lasting quality now that they've never had before....and I've been LD'ing since I was fourteen....nearly fifteen years of LD experience. Silene may be pricey, but it's worth every penny, IMO.

Very Interresting. I don't just believe salsemen's talk about how Glorious théir Products are. OFF course they are cuz they wanna do Business.

But from what I've Read Silene Capensis works wonders for all that have tried it.

Which is why I have just ordered 20 Grams of it. It should be arriving shortly. Either Monday or Tuesday. I'll keep you guys updated on my experiment with this promising DreamHerb.

DOnt know if this counts but tried ecuadorian mushrooms and was border line WILD.

Was like I got stuck in the void tho and couldn't make the most of it.

Very interesting tho.

Originally Posted by King

DOnt know if this counts but tried ecuadorian mushrooms for the second time last night and I was border line WILD.

Was like I got stuck in the void tho and couldn't make the most of it.

Very interesting tho.
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Oyeah that definitely Counts. I ate Amazonian and Ecuadorian Mushrooms last WednesdayNight, 15 grams each, 30 grams in total, and had Marvelous SuperBright, Clear and Semi-Conscious intense Dreams. I actually posted my Mushroom experience and the resulting dreams in the Extended Discussion board in the ''Trip Reports: Psychedelic Experiences shared'' Topic.

Yeah I am very well aware of the Phenomenon ''Mushroom Dreams''. Ecuadorian are especially strong and Awareness-shifting/strengthening.


Oh and PS: update on Silene Capensis.
I have just received word that my Payment has been received by Azarius Smart Shop. My package containing 20 Grams Silene Capensis, A.K.A. African Dream Root, Should be arriving either Tonight or Tomorrow.
I'll post my experiences in great Detail here and in the ''Psychedelic Experiences''-Topic, once it's been had.

Originally Posted by SKA

I ate Amazonian and Ecuadorian Mushrooms last WednesdayNight, 15 grams each, 30 grams in total, [/b]

I hope those were fresh ones, else that had be one HELL OF A TRIP lol

Originally Posted by braha_kahn

I hope those were fresh ones, else that had be one HELL OF A TRIP lol
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Yeah they were Fesh ones. Had hey been dried ones it would indeed have been one HELL of a Trip. With the Emphasis on HELL. I've heard the dreid mushrooms are much stronger, yet I don't see how that is.

So 90% of the shroom is water. If it evaporates by drying than the mushroom still contains the same amounts of Psilocybin riht? I've heard that Psilocyn actually DEGRADES when you dry Mushrooms so how can Dried shroosms be stronger?

well ANYWAY,
Just this morning my Package arrived. I've now got 20 grams dried Silene Capensis root, paced in 2 10 gram bags. I'd like my first experiment with it to be with a Friend of mine. Too bad he just recently had trouble with his mom and now is away from home staying at a Friend. I hope I can talk some sense into him allthough I couldn't agree with his frustration more. NarrowMindedness, to which he fell victim just like me in the past, should be punished with choice between Forced mind exapantion and the Death Penalty if you ask me.

Lucky you.

I wish I lived in a more open minded country where you could order things like that.

Originally Posted by SKA

So 90% of the shroom is water. If it evaporates by drying than the mushroom still contains the same amounts of Psilocybin riht? I've heard that Psilocyn actually DEGRADES when you dry Mushrooms so how can Dried shroosms be stronger?
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After the water evaporates, for the same weight of mashroom you got much more Psilocyn.

Im currently growing my own shrooms... gonna be awesome, only a few weeks to go.

Quick question, please only answer if you are 100% sure:

I made a Calea Z extraction, but instead of using just an ethanol solution, mine had 95% ethanol and around 5% METHANOL.

Methanol is toxic, but since the entire mixture will be evaporated, im wondering whether it will be safe to consume.

Anyone know...?
Thanks.

UPDATE: I have just taken Silene Capensis Tea. I woke up round 12 and grinded the African DreamRoot to as fine a powder I could get. Then I made 2 cups of Lemon Tea(Lemon Flavoured) and drank it untill the cup was Half Full. Then I added Half a TeaSpoon of the Powdered DreamRoot to my Cup and mixed it. So did a friend of Mine. Now I'm expecting results either tonight or in the 2 nights following tonight.

It's good a friend participated in this DreamRoot Experiment. I've been having wonderfully clear and impressive dreams lately, all well remembered, so After tonights dreaming I can ask him what it did for his dreams. And I can ask him to write a short Dream-Journal DreamRoot Experience Report which I will place here under mine.

Originally Posted by Sparrower

Im currently growing my own shrooms... gonna be awesome, only a few weeks to go.

Quick question, please only answer if you are 100% sure:

I made a Calea Z extraction, but instead of using just an ethanol solution, mine had 95% ethanol and around 5% METHANOL.

Methanol is toxic, but since the entire mixture will be evaporated, im wondering whether it will be safe to consume.

Anyone know...?
Thanks.
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Well allthough I cannot say I am an Extraction Scientist, I must say I did my homework and read alot on the subject.

I guess Pure alcohol would do the Trick best. Ethanol is pure. You can get 100%.
You see pure alcohol will Evaporate completely without any trail or residue left behind.

So if your Ethanol is 95% proof ( 95% pure Alcohol ) The only thing that COULD possibly leave any Residue would be the %5 Non-alcoholic ingredient of ethanol. or methanol.
Yet it could also be possible that this 5% Residue also will evaporate. If you want to be a 100% sure, use 100% proof Ethanol. And otherwise as close % to 100 ethanol as you can get.

They clean Hospitals and Laboratories with Ethanol so you could easily obtain it. Even the Liqour Store might have it; To cook with or to make your own tinctures and other alcoholic brews with. Otherwise check the Physics Lab-Classroom in your School.

Thanks for the reply. Im in australia, and ive never seen 100% ethanol here. Also, your "95 proof" doesnt have any methanol in it, so it is safe to consume. I will try to get some from a uni or something...

do shrooms aid dreams at all? i did them recently and i noticed the high was very similar to the feeling of realising you are lucid in a dream.

Originally Posted by ranma187

do shrooms aid dreams at all? i did them recently and i noticed the high was very similar to the feeling of realising you are lucid in a dream.
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True. Mushrooms bring about a hyperconsciousness. A very Clearminded feeling, while at the same time a very Dreamy one as well. A very lucid feeling overall.

Now last night I had little to no Sleep. An external Female Stimulus kept me from Sleeping and Dreaming last night so I'll have to see what happens tonight. I did have some sleep and had an Amazingly Vivid Dream or 2 maybe. I am certain of that, only I can't recall any details. Only the feelings carried over and only the Memory of THAT I had had Intense dreams. Just can't what exactly it was, cuz I had to start my day right away after awakening.

Appearantly this herb's Alkaloids travel so slowly through your system that it's possible for the full effect to take place somewhere around 3 days after ingestion. So who knows what tonight will bring.

It's about time to rest my eyes. So I will go to bed and see if my Dreams are any different tonight.


PS: I couldn't manage to Pulverise and powder the Root Completely and very Fine.
Some parts of this Root are really hard as rock while others are tough to break and rather bend instead.
Anyone any good suggestions as to HOW I can powder this root VERY finely? Like Fine as Dust?

My second night of Dreaming after Drinking Silene Capensis DreamRoot Tea.

I again had maniacally vivid dreams, but chaoticly remembered them.Like Scrambled eggs.

What I remember is:
My aunt and my cousin in my Grandmother's livingroom.
Also a beautyfull landscape of a Theme park. At one point I and some other DCs walked past a Gigantic Rocky mass. It was an Attraction still underconstruction. A Large wildwater current-boat ride carved out of a massive red/cupper-colored rockmass. Part of it was outdoor and the ''track, which was a smooth, blue riverbed type of surface, ran through a Cave that was long and had a very high ceiling. The inside of this cave was painted, polished in this lightblue and water wasn't yet running though there.

Then I was Imagining what type of boats would ride on this attraction and ''came up'' with circulair bumping boats. And as I furtherly Imagined what kind of Attraction this was I saw it happening before my eyes. I actually floated over the rocky side of the Riverbed, over the Riverbed and into the Cave.

And allthough my DreamRecall was rather Chaotic and very Fragmented, these scenes and situations were vrey bright, impressive and clear and therefor well remembered. I fell asleep after 04:30 so I hope tonight, when I'll go to bed earlier will have likewise but even more memorable results.

Actually the Theme-park part I only remembered while writing this post. I'm going to Meditate and see if more of my Dreams had last night will float back to the surface.


PS: I ground the root as finely as I could with a mortar and pestle. I couldn't get all the more ''elastic'' and less hard parts of the DreamRoot grinded to a fine powder and our peppermill didn't do it well either cuz it's a piece of shit, so can anyone here give me a suggestion as to how to finely powder it completely?

Wow. You guys are like, stoner try anything druggie guys. But you know a lot. I think I'm gonna start experimenting. This is cool, thanks a lot

Originally Posted by SKA

PS: I ground the root as finely as I could with a mortar and pestle. I couldn't get all the more ''elastic'' and less hard parts of the DreamRoot grinded to a fine powder and our peppermill didn't do it well either cuz it's a piece of shit, so can anyone here give me a suggestion as to how to finely powder it completely?
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Maybe you could try using a food blender or processor, could even try using one of those grinders that you can get for cannabis.
Not sure if they would work but just a suggestion.