Thread: Galantamine + Choline

I've been rather disappointed with my last two tries. The first (of the last two) had a long, low-level lucid, which was alright (other than having no control over it). But the last time blew. No lucids and terrible recall.

Originally Posted by Serenity

I've been rather disappointed with my last two tries. The first (of the last two) had a long, low-level lucid, which was alright (other than having no control over it). But the last time blew. No lucids and terrible recall.

I've had that happen twice... they were actually consecutive tries as well, after the 3 day wait. Maybe you're stressed or have been slacking on your RCs? I know I stopped dreaming completely when I was really stressed for a while...

It's helped before i'm sure it will again. Maybe give it a week before trying again.

Good luck.

Hi everyone,

I am new to these forums and have been reading with interest on this subject, I have been trying to have Lucid dreams for years with very little success, I started over 15 years ago when I bought the Novadreamer, I tried all techniques for about 2 years but only had a handful of lucid dreams and decided that the results weren't worth the effort.

About a month ago I discovered Thomas Yuschak's book in the ibook store and ordered some Lucid dreamer pills from dreamamins, first night I took one at 4am but nothing happened (too much alcohol the night before I think) some days later took 5htp at bedtime and pill at 4am, kept me awake for ages and then had a very intense sp but no dreamscape when I got there, last night took a pill at 4am fell asleep for an hour and when I woke up I had 2 sp close to each other but no dream scape to become lucid in.

Anybody else had this?

Yea that happens to me a lot. I tried again last night and it was the craziest expereince so far. So I took it at 4:30am and for some reason, the last few times I haven't been able to fall asleep for like 2 hours or longer. But eventually I found myself to be extremly tired and heavy feeling so I figures I could get into sp hella easily and I did. So I went into sp multiple times and everytime I heard two full songs playing. It was freakin awsome. This is the second time this has happned to me. It was like I would just lay there and wait for the music to start playing and it happened multiple times. I eventually got lucid using my vild type technique where I visualize myelf rubbing my carpet and looking under the crack under my door. That works for me everytime. But I became lucid and ran through my wall, into my kitchen and through my backdoor into my backyard. When I got into my backyard I saw the sun rising but it looked all cartoonish. Then I ran towards my fence and jump up and started to fly, and woke up. Haha I don't know why I woke up, I didn't get excited. But also once again,I kept going in and out of being in my real body to being in my dream body. This time it lasted like 10 minutes and everytime I was in my dream body in my bed, there was a different person floating in my room. I couldn't move that well and kept trying to grab them, but they would float away. Oh and I also got a dild, but it lasted like 10 seconds. I tried spinning but it faded to quickly.

I've tried the G + Ch (Dreamamins) four times now on a WBTB basis. The first time, nothing happened. The second and third times were very long, vivid, controllable LDs with amazing soundtracks, if I do say so myself. The fourth time nothing happened. The second time, I awoke after 4 hours, took the green pill, did some reading for 20 minutes and went back to sleep and LD'd. The third time, I awoke after 4 hours, took the green pill, read for an hour, and had difficulty getting back to sleep (it took another half hour) but did have the LD. I think it might be important to go to bed at a reasonable hour, which wasn't the case on the fourth try. I felt great each morning upon awakening, LD or no LD.

Originally Posted by col

Hi everyone,

I am new to these forums and have been reading with interest on this subject, I have been trying to have Lucid dreams for years with very little success, I started over 15 years ago when I bought the Novadreamer, I tried all techniques for about 2 years but only had a handful of lucid dreams and decided that the results weren't worth the effort.

About a month ago I discovered Thomas Yuschak's book in the ibook store and ordered some Lucid dreamer pills from dreamamins, first night I took one at 4am but nothing happened (too much alcohol the night before I think) some days later took 5htp at bedtime and pill at 4am, kept me awake for ages and then had a very intense sp but no dreamscape when I got there, last night took a pill at 4am fell asleep for an hour and when I woke up I had 2 sp close to each other but no dream scape to become lucid in.

Anybody else had this?

i would def not drink the night of a Galantamine attempt.

sleep for at least 4 hours before taking it, you didnt put what time you went to bed.

l-theanine is very helpful for getting back to sleep

Originally Posted by SleepyKitty

I've had that happen twice... they were actually consecutive tries as well, after the 3 day wait. Maybe you're stressed or have been slacking on your RCs? I know I stopped dreaming completely when I was really stressed for a while...

It's helped before i'm sure it will again. Maybe give it a week before trying again.

Good luck.

Actually, yeah, they've all been consecutive. I've also been quite tired and not been practicing as much as I should. Last night, I did my first WBTB in forever, and I also haven't been actively MILDing, which definitely doesn't help.

Just a question, to those who ordered from Dreamamins.com. How long did it take for you to receive the package? I know it's a long way from the US to Sweden, but it's been a while now. And the order says shipped.

I think it took like 2 or 3 days for mine to arrive. But I might be close to where they're located. It came a lot faster than I expected it to. How long have you been waiting?

The package was sent the 1st of November.

Originally Posted by Matte87

The package was sent the 1st of November.

Damn that is a while. Did you try emailing them. I could just take longer because of how far you are and depending on what they used to ship it.

Just got a reply from them. It takes 4-6 weeks for it to arrive. We'll see when it comes hehe. I'm so looking forward to trying it out though, and I will review it here later on.

It took about 2 weeks to get from US to Canada... so I can imagine that it would take twice as long to go overseas! The wait sucks, but it's worth it

I remember reading somewhere to keep you G/C pills in the fridge... it will extend their potency a little longer.

Originally Posted by Serenity

It took about 2 weeks to get from US to Canada... so I can imagine that it would take twice as long to go overseas! The wait sucks, but it's worth it

I remember reading somewhere to keep you G/C pills in the fridge... it will extend their potency a little longer.

Oh, 60 pills. That's more than a year if I intend to take them only once a week. How long do they last? haha

How long do they last? haha

I'm not sure, actually!

Got them today! They expire August 2012. So I am safe! Sweet I will try it out this weekend. It's supposed to be taken at WBTB right?

Yea take it during a wbtb. I don't think it does much before taking it before bed, except keeping you awake and giving you nightmares

Alright! This is the night before my first attempt. I do have a few more questions.

1: I've been sleeping badly, and haven't recalled more than a few fragments during this week. Should I go for a 4½ hours of WBTB or 6 hours? I aim to sleep for 10-12 hours.

2: During the WBTB. Should I eat something? Or is this pill intended to be taken on an empty stomach?

3: If I wake up after a lucid, and want to write it down instead of trying for a L-DEILD. Will the effect still stay in place as strongly when I go back to sleep?

4: Never tried WILD. Should I go for it? I am physically exhausted! If there's a great chance of doing it, it might be tomorrow. But I really NEED to fall asleep and dream. I'm going crazy here haha! If the WILD fails, will I have problems falling back asleep again, or does it make you kinda sleepy? I have no problems going to sleep normally or falling back asleep.

5: During which time is it best to be taken? I'm thinking of Melatonin levels because of the light. I've been waking up 5.00 AM every day this week. Should I aim to get the WBTB at that time, or an hour before/after 5.00?

I really hope you guys can answer my questions. This is huge for me, and I've been longing for this for a while now! Thanks.

Keep on dreaming!

Ooh, is there an expiry date on them somewhere? I looked, but couldn't find one on mine. I actually think that those Melissa tabs I take might be drowning the G/C. Everytime I take the two combined, it have the WORST experiences (as in, might as well not have wasted a G/C).

I have two trials incoming...

Take the Melissa 1 hour before bedtime, instead of the WBTB... the sleep aid seems to have a very lengthy half life (as opposed to melatonin, which is usually out of my system by the WBTB... when I take the Melissa at WBTB, I'm usually still exhausted by the time I'm meant to wake up for the day).

For instance, last night, I went to bed around 3am. I woke up at 6am to take the Melissa tab, because I needed to sleep past noon (night shift tonight). I even set my lucid weaver to wake me up every 90 minutes for recall notes... I had no troubles in passing out again, and slept easily until I dragged myself out of bed at 1pm.

Second trial, go back to the G/C + 0.5mg of melatonin and see if it's back to acting the way it did before.

Originally Posted by Matte87

Alright! This is the night before my first attempt. I do have a few more questions.

1: I've been sleeping badly, and haven't recalled more than a few fragments during this week. Should I go for a 4½ hours of WBTB or 6 hours? I aim to sleep for 10-12 hours.

2: During the WBTB. Should I eat something? Or is this pill intended to be taken on an empty stomach?

3: If I wake up after a lucid, and want to write it down instead of trying for a L-DEILD. Will the effect still stay in place as strongly when I go back to sleep?

4: Never tried WILD. Should I go for it? I am physically exhausted! If there's a great chance of doing it, it might be tomorrow. But I really NEED to fall asleep and dream. I'm going crazy here haha! If the WILD fails, will I have problems falling back asleep again, or does it make you kinda sleepy? I have no problems going to sleep normally or falling back asleep.

5: During which time is it best to be taken? I'm thinking of Melatonin levels because of the light. I've been waking up 5.00 AM every day this week. Should I aim to get the WBTB at that time, or an hour before/after 5.00?

I really hope you guys can answer my questions. This is huge for me, and I've been longing for this for a while now! Thanks.

Keep on dreaming!

1. For me, 4-4 1/2 hours of sleep has always been the best. But you can find what works best for you. I like taking it when I'm really tired.
2. I take it on an empty stomach. I don't even get up during my wbtb. I just take the pills and either fall bacl to sleep or try and wild.
3.If you want to wake up after a dream and write it down, I think it should still work after you fall back asleep. For me, this stuff works from the time I take it(usually 4am or 5am) till I wake up at like 9:30 am. I tend to wake up a lot when I take it, but everytime I wake up, I am able to vild throughout the morning. So it works pretty long for me.
4. If you want to try and wild, I'd say go for it. This stuff made it super easy for me to get into sp(I don't know why). But it is kind of a stimulate, so I usually just take it and fall asleep. But once I fall asleep, I usaully automatically wake up when it kicks in and I'm able to vild or at least get into some sp.

Good luck, I'm gonna take mine tomarrow morning.

Just woke up from taking it. I slept for 6 hours and did a WBTB. Ate some porridge and was lucky to catch a show on TV about dreaming! Got back to bed and didn't fall back asleep right away. When I did, I had 4 dreams within an hour. Had no dreams before that. In the end, I had woken up atleast 4-5 times, and the dreams totaled 13 (4 fragments).

This was amazing! I am definitely taking it again. Too bad I didn't have a long lucid. I got lucid in one of them, but the dream ended right away, and I got a FA when trying to DEILD...

No side effects either from what I can tell. I also have a memory of having 3 more of those short lucids, which all ended abruptly. But I fell back asleep before I got to write them down, and when I woke up again, I only had the memory of having them... So I'm not sure if I really did haha.

I'll give it a 10/10 when it comes to dreaming, and a 5/10 when it comes to inducing lucids. But I guess I was just unlucky Will try it next weekend, and tell you guys what happened!

And Serenity: Mine is on the bottom of the bottle.

Yea If I don't become lucid it gives me some really vivd dreams. I just woke up from my G&C night and it was the same as usual. I actually got lucid right before I woke up to take it and my vibrating alarm was in thew dream. Took me a good 7 minutes to realize what the vibration was haha. I used visualization again and went to three differnt locations. The first time I imagined myself running down a street. I was able to get into the dream like 6 times, but then it would fade. The next location I visualized was my family room. Two time I was able to walk around and picl something up to try and stabalize the dream, but then it would fade away. All the other attempts in this location consisted of me opening ansd closing my sliding door to try and stabalize my dream, but I was like blind. And I also kept trying to get with selina gomez and during one of my attempts in my family room, while I couldn't see at all, I felt a girl on my couch, so figured it was her and we started making out haha. The final location I was at a random house and I stayed lucid the longest in this one, but kept fading in and out of the dream. But I have found out that this stuff allows me to vild everytime I've tried so far. Damn, I really wanted to get with selina gomez haha. Oh, and the reason I woke up during most of those lucids is because.I had somewhat of a bad dream before taking the pills, so during the dreams I kept getting a bad vibe.

Its been a while since I tried but just had another good LD with my G+Ch combo. Works every time for me which is nice after my very disappointing AA combo failure.

One thing I did notice however was that it seems to me timing is really important and perhaps I've been trying it too early. I normally set my alarm at around 03:30, take my capsule, stay awake for 15 mins and go back to sleep. Usually though I dont have my first LD until a few hours later, around 05:15, so I think next time I'll leave my alarm to around 04:15 or so to see if that makes a difference. I'm a poor LDer, so any LD is good news as far as I'm concerned. It was short but sweet and preceeded, as is almost always the case, by a rocking shifting movement in my body image. That seems to make me conscious and I know what's coming. Its a great feeling as is the anticipation of an LD.

I've just bought a device from the US which I'm going to try out as an LD inducer and once I've given it a go I'll report back. It uses magnetic fields.

Does G+C make you WILD easier? Like, make you sleepy or something? I didn't have time to notice any effects until I fell asleep.