Thread: Galantamine + Choline

Originally Posted by iadr

Yes, the noises that you are hearing are caused by your being in tune with the other dimension, so when you hear these noises that's a very good sign that you are very close to an out of body experience, if not already out of your body a bit.

I used to hear them all the time. They were very nerve racking at first, as I would hear people arguing with each other or just talking really loud, and would sometimes hear cats or dogs running around and playing with each other.

I finally learned to just relax and concentrate on floating when hearing the noises, and float away from them.

That is one thing these supplements seem to be good for, helping to separate from the body, as I have found myself floating face down about a foot above the floor several times after taking the supplements.

This is also a reason that people should make sure they are ready for something like this before taking the supplements, because if they aren't expecting something like this, it can be a little scary.

Thanks! Can you suggest how to get released from the paralyzed or frozen state. I don't have experience in projecting, oobe etc. I know how to WILD to lucids but don't know how to "free" my body from the locked state. Sadly enough...I read about 1/2 of Astral Dynamics but didnt keep the book, ughhhh!

Many thanks!

Where Can I find these Vitamins? Local Vitamin shop. Also If someone could provide a list of all the vitamins used, that would be according to the demeanor of Budda.
thanks

Where Can I find these Vitamins? Local Vitamin shop. Also If someone could provide a list of all the vitamins used, that would be according to the demeanor of Budda.
thank you.

Originally Posted by dodobird

Forth WILD attempt with Galantamine + choline: Partial success.

This time in addition to 4mg Galantamine and 500 mg choline when doing WBTB, I took 100mg of 5-HTP at bed-time. Yuschak suggests taking it as both to improve the sleep quality on nights that you take Galantamine ( because then you will have good deep sleep the first half of the night to compensate for the extended REM sleep the caused by the Galantamine and choline ), and also because it causes an REM rebound the second half of the night.
For me this didn't work well on this attempt. When I woke for the WBTB, I was very refreshed and afterwards during the WILD attempt I couldn't fall asleep. I was just not sleepy enough. I managed to get to the stage of the vibrations many times, I'd say about 10 times, but I couldn't cross over to the dream state.
Galantamine and choline are also stimulants, so after sometime it became even harder to fall asleep, and I struggled like this until the morning. However, just before I gave up and got up, I did managed to cross through the HI transition, and into a lucid dream. Unfortunately the dream was very unstable and I woke after about 20 seconds.
Again I took 3200mg Peracetam after I woke up to counter the Galantamine, and I don't feel any Galantamine 'hang-over'.

Where Can I find these Vitamins? Local Vitamin shop. Also If someone could provide a list of all the vitamins used, that would be according to the demeanor of Budda.
thanks

Originally Posted by symbolist

Where Can I find these Vitamins? Local Vitamin shop. Also If someone could provide a list of all the vitamins used, that would be according to the demeanor of Budda.
thanks

Advanced LD.com also you might want to purchase the book, it explains how to use combinations and when to take them ect to get the best effects.

Originally Posted by symbolist

Where Can I find these Vitamins? Local Vitamin shop. Also If someone could provide a list of all the vitamins used, that would be according to the demeanor of Budda.
thanks

Just found this link on another lucid dreaming site.

http://www.naturalhealthconsult.com/...lantamind.html

This is the cheapest I've seen it offered anywhere, and as far as I know it is something that is only sold over the internet right now.

It tells at the top of the page what ingredients are in the capsule.

I bought the 8mg size and just took the capsule apart and took only half of it with an additional 250 mg of choline the first time I tried it, which was more than enough, as I had 3 false awakenings followed by a lucid dream.

Like any kind of pill, make sure you read up on the side effects of this so that will know what to expect.

Originally Posted by symbolist

Where Can I find these Vitamins? Local Vitamin shop. Also If someone could provide a list of all the vitamins used, that would be according to the demeanor of Budda.
thank you.

What does Buddha has to do with it?

Originally Posted by phoenelai

Thanks! Can you suggest how to get released from the paralyzed or frozen state. I don't have experience in projecting, oobe etc. I know how to WILD to lucids but don't know how to "free" my body from the locked state. Sadly enough...I read about 1/2 of Astral Dynamics but didnt keep the book, ughhhh!
Many thanks!

I've heard that the best way to get out of that frozen state is to try wiggling your big toe, but personally I would prefer to remain in that frozen state if I were to ever find myself in it again, as it is the easiest state to project out of your body from.

Next time you find yourself in that state, just relax, and concentrate on floating.

You should find yourself out of your body shortly after this.

Once out of your body, be aware that in that other dimension everything is controlled by your mind.

If you wish to go somewhere, just think about where you want to go and you should find yourself there almost instantly.

And don't be scared of various noises you hear like voices or other things, as this is just an indication that you have succeeded in making it into the other dimension.

You should be able to get away from them just by concentrating on going somewhere else.

Originally Posted by iadr

I've heard that the best way to get out of that frozen state is to try wiggling your big toe, but personally I would prefer to remain in that frozen state if I were to ever find myself in it again, as it is the easiest state to project out of your body from.

Next time you find yourself in that state, just relax, and concentrate on floating.

You should find yourself out of your body shortly after this.

Once out of your body, be aware that in that other dimension everything is controlled by your mind.

If you wish to go somewhere, just think about where you want to go and you should find yourself there almost instantly.

And don't be scared of various noises you hear like voices or other things, as this is just an indication that you have succeeded in making it into the other dimension.

You should be able to get away from them just by concentrating on going somewhere else.

Thanks, I'll let you know how I progress with this. Appreciate the info!

One thing I forgot to mention.

If you would happen to encounter any entities while in that other dimension that you perceive to be evil (unfortunately there are a few of those out there, just like there are some very helpful entities also), I've found the best way in dealing with them is to just concentrate on expanding white light out from myself.

They are unable to handle white light as it disentigrates them.

Fortunately I've only encountered negative entities about 10 percent of the time.

I have followed this topic with great interest. I bought galantamine+choline from Dreamamins and I've had great success with it, from six times in five weeks: 2 WILDs and 4DILDs.

But lately it is difficult to me to return to sleep a bit after taking galantamine. I don't have L-Theanine yet so... What about of taking valerian together with galantamine+coline after 4 hours of sleep(WBTB)?

I got pills of valerian with hop but I never taken them. Would valerian interfere in phase REM similar to melatonine? Or similar to L-Theanine?

Thanks for answers.

By the way I'm a new user from Spain. Nice to meet you to all.

Originally Posted by Ulises

I have followed this topic with great interest. I bought galantamine+choline from Dreamamins and I've had great success with it, from six times in five weeks: 2 WILDs and 4DILDs.

But lately it is difficult to me to return to sleep a bit after taking galantamine. I don't have L-Theanine yet so... What about of taking valerian together with galantamine+coline after 4 hours of sleep(WBTB)?

I got pills of valerian with hop but I never taken them. Would valerian interfere in phase REM similar to melatonine? Or similar to L-Theanine?

Thanks for answers.

By the way I'm a new user from Spain. Nice to meet you to all.

Welcome to DV, Ulises!

I do not think enough is known on Valerian to give you an answer. The best way is simply to try it.
Another thing you can do to help you fall asleep, is reduce the time in which you are awake when doing WBTB.

Originally Posted by Ulises

But lately it is difficult to me to return to sleep a bit after taking galantamine.
By the way I'm a new user from Spain. Nice to meet you to all.

Nice to meet you too Ulises.

Having difficulty getting back to sleep is a very common problem with the galantamine, and something I've also had trouble with lately myself.

A couple of nights ago I took 1200 mg of alpha-gpc after about 3 1/2 hours of sleep with the intention of then taking 8 mg of galantamine about 1 1/2 hours later so that they would both kick in at the same time.

And even though I went back to bed immediately after taking both the alpha-gpc and the galantamine, I never got back to sleep at all for the rest of the night since the stuff kept me awake all night long. And I even took L-Theanine with the galantamine.

For that reason I've decided to just use this stuff on the weekends from now on when I am off the next day and can sleep in.

I had to take the night off last night just to catch up on my sleep.

Originally Posted by iadr

Nice to meet you too Ulises.

Having difficulty getting back to sleep is a very common problem with the galantamine, and something I've also had trouble with lately myself.

A couple of nights ago I took 1200 mg of alpha-gpc after about 3 1/2 hours of sleep with the intention of then taking 8 mg of galantamine about 1 1/2 hours later so that they would both kick in at the same time.

And even though I went back to bed immediately after taking both the alpha-gpc and the galantamine, I never got back to sleep at all for the rest of the night since the stuff kept me awake all night long. And I even took L-Theanine with the galantamine.

For that reason I've decided to just use this stuff on the weekends from now on when I am off the next day and can sleep in.

I had to take the night off last night just to catch up on my sleep.

Agreed, I'm no longer using this stuff during the week. Too many times I've lost sleep. The only thing I'm using during the week before bed is 5HTP and that helps good sleep and can trigger REM rebound. My recall has been really great and had one Low Level Lucid!

I have experimented for the seventh time with galantamine+choline:

I went to bed at 1:30 then I woke up at 5:30 and I took 8mg galantamine and 400mg choline, I was wake for about ten minutes and I went to bed again. I was on the bed with my mind in blank and suddenly I started to see landscapes. One of the landscapes, that had a waterfall, began to wrap me or maybe I entered on it. then the waterfall turned into a house in wich I lived when I was a child, I went out to the roof and I began to fly.

Later I had two false awakenings and a very vivid dream no lucid.

No side effects this morning.

Greetings.

I tried 200mg DMAE with the Galantamind for the first time last night. (Adding the DMAE was a first). Usually I take 300mg Choline

Woke myself at 1:30AM after 4hr sleep (many dreams) and then listened to 80min of hemisync.
By that time I was very relaxed with my body asleep. I stayed in that condition for another 30-60min and then started interacting with the 3D images in front of me. That drew me the rest of the way into the sequences. I was able to do this many times and was lucid each time. When I would do this I would have total control of myself and took varying degrees of control over my environment.

I had everything from deeply meaningful experiences to what seemed like extremely trivia experiences. One time I was in bed with a beautiful black woman and I asked who she was. She said that she was my creation. (That was one of the trivial ones).

Another time a booming voice came out of nowhere while I was at this beautiful scene. The voice told me things about my future life here. (That was one of the meaningful ones).

The difference, for me, adding the DMAE was:

1) less body feel of the vibrations
2) many more sequences of events and consciousness prior to leaving
3) felt closer to this earth plane

Dear All,

I haven't replied for quite a while, sorry. I've added 3 video segments to Youtube that are part of a 4 part tutorial on Lucid Dream Supplements. I did these videos to educate dreamers about supplements and the science behind using them to enhance their dreams.

Here are the URLs...

Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pt4kX-ByQak
Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=nm0tZ3bJP6Y
Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=bdmv0y0YHMI

Or you can do a keyword search on this phrase:

"Lucid Dreaming Foods"

BTW, I also did a 3 part series on the Novadreamer mask.

You can find them by doing a Youtube keyword search on

"Novadreamer Lucid"

For transcripts of the videos go to...

http://www.advancedld.com/links.html

Regards,

Scot Stride

Cheers Scot
Thanks for taking the time to put the videos on supplements on
Lucid Dreaming together, they will be very informative and helpful
to many people including myself.

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I did a little research on galantamine a while back and thought that I read that it didn't get into the central nervous system when taken orally. From your experiences, that seems not to be true.

Thanks for sharing this. I'll have to get that book.

B6 used to work for me, but it quit working. It definitely wasn't a placebo effect, but it just doesn't seem to work anymore.

Same here, B6 use to give me very vivid dreams for the first 3 weeks or so, taken like every 3 days, but now they don't work in the slightest.

Well, I recieved my Galantamine in the mail yesterday and decided to try it out last night.

I woke up 3.5 hours after I went to bed, 4.5 and it would have been too early, I took the Galantamine and read for about 20 minutes. I went back to bed, and tried to WILD but I just fell back asleep. Then I find myself lucid in a dream, I explore that dream for a short period and start to feel the dream fading, I start feeling vibrations, but I manage to procure a new dream scene. From then I had about a 3 minute long lucid, I had minimal control, but it was still fun.

If you ask me, Galantamine WORKS. I'm excited to try it when I have a full nights sleep and no finals the next morning.

P.S. This was without taking Choline, I'm going to go pick some up though. What are the benefits?

Originally Posted by LoganKost

If you ask me, Galantamine WORKS. I'm excited to try it when I have a full nights sleep and no finals the next morning.

P.S. This was without taking Choline, I'm going to go pick some up though. What are the benefits?

from the advancedld site:

Effect on Dreams:
Choline salts do not have much of an impact on dreaming unless they are combined with Galantamine in which case they can intensify the action of Galantamine.

Effect on Lucid Dreams:
Combining a Choline salt with Galantamine increases the odds of experiencing a WILD. I consider the Galantamine/Choline combination to be the fundamental lucidity trigger from which all others are derived.

Originally Posted by LoganKost

Well, I recieved my Galantamine in the mail yesterday and decided to try it out last night.



P.S. This was without taking Choline, I'm going to go pick some up though. What are the benefits?

First of all ... it works much better for me if I wait 5-7days between ingesting the Galantamine. The body builds up a tolerance.

The choline is a precursor to Acetycholine which is the neurotransmitter that we are really interested in. This helps to create an abundance of Acetycholine in the brain to help remember the events and maintain consciousness. Understand that the abundance of Choline/Acetycholine does many things within the body structure. Do your research, know what you are doing to your body.

Research throughly before you take any of these substances. Just because they aren't regulated doesn't mean they aren't powerful. Used with foresight and knowledge of how they interact and they are very powerful indeed for the remembering of these incredible journeys.

BlessU
Sam

I think I get a bit of a brain fog the next couple of days. Or is that just my advancing age?

Originally Posted by dallyup52

I think I get a bit of a brain fog the next couple of days. Or is that just my advancing age?

Thats weird. I dont understand any of you people Same with Thomas Yuschak; in his book he would talk about side effects...

Never have I encountered any effects with Galantamine, and since I had no success with 4mg, or 8mg, I have gone to 12mg/750 combos, and I still get no side effects.

Whats the deal.. super CNS?