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      Melatonin+Tryptophan+B6 = yum?

      Since an increase in serotonin creates vivid dreams, and better recall it would be of benefit to take some before bed. But you cannot simply eat serotonin because it does not cross the blood-brain barrier, But the amino acid tryptophan is metabolized within the body into serotonin, and vitamin b6 is a catalyst to the whole tryptophan to serotonin thing. So if you have a large tryptophan and B6 intake you would yield a higher level of serotonin.

      Now melatonin is produced within the body and released when the retina detects darkness. Melatonin makes you sleepy, and also somewhat influences your sleep, and REM periods. It shortens REM cycles, but makes them more intense since less REM time would yield more results in the lesser time.

      Now what would happen if you took melatonin to get sleepy, less REM, and more vivid dreams, IN COMBINATION to tryptophan and vitamin b6 for an increase in serotonin, which yeilds vivid dreams and better recall?

      I think we need some answer.
      Im going to buy the nessecary supplements soon and try this out for myself.

      ANybody know any good safe starting dosage?
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      Anyone know the recomended dosage?
      Last edited by moe007; 01-13-2008 at 07:32 PM.
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      I was under the impression that you couldn't purchase tryptophan anymore?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Aquanina View Post
      I was under the impression that you couldn't purchase tryptophan anymore?
      You can in the US, they have it as a supplement at farmer's markets.
      Maybe at GNC. I dont know.
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      In another thread, taking tryptophan and B6 was discussed. The Question is "Will they metabolize in the gut?". From what I have read they do and the debate has shifted from being ineffective to is it unheathy.

      Do you find any supplements (memory mixes, sleep aids) mixing tryptophan and B6? I'm sure someone has thought of this already.

      Also, Do a google search on "seritonin syndrome".

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      Quote Originally Posted by Stupified View Post
      In another thread, taking tryptophan and B6 was discussed. The Question is "Will they metabolize in the gut?". From what I have read they do and the debate has shifted from being ineffective to is it unheathy.

      Do you find any supplements (memory mixes, sleep aids) mixing tryptophan and B6? I'm sure someone has thought of this already.

      Also, Do a google search on "seritonin syndrome".
      I have read about serotonin syndrome, and I dont think doing this once, for experimental purposes will harm you. Melatonin crosses the bloodbrain barriar, so that is not a problem. The trpytophan and b6 will metabolise into serotonin, but you woulnt get serotonin syndrome from once or twice. that would take a big LD.
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      http://yarchive.net/med/5-htp.html

      You only have to read down to the forth and fifth paragraph in the response.

      It doesn't sound too dangerous. You'll just get the shits.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Stupified View Post
      It doesn't sound too dangerous. You'll just get the shits.
      Well that's conducive to lucid dreaming!

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      i dunno i dont think its harmful if you do it once.
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      Hey, I take melatonin every single night because I have insomnia. Is it dangerous for me to start attempting lucid dreams? I have only had two lucid dreams before that only lasted 30 seconds because I was too excited but those two were really just from realizing I was dreaming however I had read about lucid dreaming before those two.
      I'm hoping to start attempting these lucid dreams seriously now, of course I'm going to take it easy with them. But I'm very concerned as to whether attempting lucid dreams whilst taking melatonin every single night could be dangerous. Also, does insomnia prevent lucid dreams?
      Thanks, I'm really excited to start but I want to clear things up first.

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