Thread: DMT- rick strassman author

SKA...that's awesome. I would love to get my hands on some DMT if I could.

SKA! youve had the greatest post by far on this thread. you are awesome!

Originally Posted by SKA

No they're Illegal because they can UNfuck your Mind. They're illegal because they expand your awareness and striking down your thinking barriers and taking you away from the usual patterns/paths of thought to think and percieve freely unbound by judgement or emotions.

Fascism is creeping up on us again. DMT is being banned by the Modern inquisitors. They're message is "Don't buy their God, buy our God". It's a Clash of cultures. The So Called Civilised Western World of Destruction, opression and slavery with their Unreachable God, their Beer and their Eucharist against the allmost already exterminated Strange Shamanic, "Naïve", Close to Nature, Tribal people with their Many Nature Gods, Their Marijuana and their Ayahuasca Brew.

DMT is illegal because we live in the Lands of the Make believe civilised Western World of Beer, God and Slavery and it is illegal in Brazil too because, dispite the fact that The ancestoral heritage of Brazil are Visionairy plant consuming people, the Western Dominant World Enforced these Laws uppon Brazil in change for Economical Support, As the US did with all countries in this world.


Imagine, for a minute, having been born an Raised amongst Amazonian Rain Forrest indians. You spoke their language because youn were taught as a child. Likewise you received spiritual religious teachings by Shamans about indian deities and the Spiritworld. Naturally these beliefs would be the "Norm" for you. So you wander through the forrests nearly naked, searching for food, playing, swiming, fishing..etc Also you were taught to Drink Ayahuasca to spiritually cleanse yourself of Negativity. Then you might think DMT is a wonderfull Spiritual Medicine.

Meaning to say: The way you look at it is not purely your own vision but clearly a Manipulated, Enforced Vision by The rather Pursuasive Western World's Authoritarian grip on all of our Minds.

Originally Posted by slakajuster

haha he is an idiot. very very wise words man. very wise. i almost regret being forcd into this western civilization careing only for money and power... you should watch a documentary on western facism and greed at zeitgeistmovie.com a great movie. there is also various interviews with rick strassman and albert hoffman on youtube. along with various insight by joe rogan.. a much smarter man then you would see on fearfactor or ufc. anyways man great insight, stick it to those patriotic blind mindless conformists.

ps sorry for grammer

you are my people i feel like this every day of my life i go to school and look at the people and look at myself and feel disgusted that this is the way humanity is

alright
how long does it last?
how much does it cost?
how much should an individual take/smoke?
can you play it off at all in front of ppl?

Speaking of DMT, here is a trailer to the DMT movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v905f...eature=related
http://www.thespiritmolecule.com/

Originally Posted by stnicka

alright
how long does it last?
how much does it cost?
how much should an individual take/smoke?
can you play it off at all in front of ppl?

-lasts about 15 minutes
-idk about cost, but its expensive
-dont know how much you take but its small in milligrams dosage, check erowid.org i may be wrong
-theres no way you could play it off in front of anyone, this isnt a party drug, you're literally blasted off into another dimension, your body is pretty much just sitting there for the whole 15 minutes in a trance

Originally Posted by JamesLD

-lasts about 15 minutes
-idk about cost, but its expensive
-dont know how much you take but its small in milligrams dosage, check erowid.org i may be wrong
-theres no way you could play it off in front of anyone, this isnt a party drug, you're literally blasted off into another dimension, your body is pretty much just sitting there for the whole 15 minutes in a trance

15 mins thats it!?
omg im gonna get some, doin salvia, DMT, Shrooms, and Acid over a course of a couple months not doin the last 2 till febuary tho

that 15 minutes will change your entire life and the way you look at the world.

Originally Posted by stnicka

15 mins thats it!?
omg im gonna get some, doin salvia, DMT, Shrooms, and Acid over a course of a couple months not doin the last 2 till febuary tho

Before you even attempt DMT, you really should read over it, what it does, and all the stories that came from it. Learn it for around a month. You will go in prepared. This stuff can really, REALLY mess you up if you are not prepared for what you will see. I have never tried it myself, but i know alot of it, and the peoples expieriences. Obviously not everyone has the exact same expierience, but you can have bad trips that may give you the wrong impression of DMT. Even when you take it, don't go in knowing what you will expierience as words cannot describe the expierience, only your expierience can describe the expierience.

read dr. rick strassmans book DMT: The Spirit Molecule, it should give you some more insight on dmt, and its a great book. and do research on dmt on erowid.org

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Before you even attempt DMT, you really should read over it, what it does, and all the stories that came from it. Learn it for around a month. You will go in prepared. This stuff can really, REALLY mess you up if you are not prepared for what you will see. I have never tried it myself, but i know alot of it, and the peoples expieriences. Obviously not everyone has the exact same expierience, but you can have bad trips that may give you the wrong impression of DMT. Even when you take it, don't go in knowing what you will expierience as words cannot describe the expierience, only your expierience can describe the expierience.

Originally Posted by JamesLD

read dr. rick strassmans book DMT: The Spirit Molecule, it should give you some more insight on dmt, and its a great book. and do research on dmt on erowid.org

ya man i will, honestly i know i have time to research because i know its gonna be fucking hard to find

Originally Posted by SKA

Haha Hippies? You smell of prejudice Allthough I find being called a "Hippie" a great honour I've never gone about calling myself a hippie.

I know you meant it would fuck up your mind and not your body;
But with this I also disagree. Can it? Yes it can if you have an unstable, significant psycho- or Schizotypical disordered mind to begin with.
But the average person, even if some doosh totally inexperienced with psychedelics decides to smoke 70 miligrams of DMT(a rather rediulously highdose) then the worst that s/he can get is a terribly traumatic, fearfull experience. In this experience it is highly unlikely that the doosh hurts him/herselfor does anything stupid; s/he wll be (near) completely immobilised and casted into a visionairy, purely perceptive out of body-ish experience.

DMT, being the most mystical, immersive and visual psychedelic substance, is therefor thought of as:"It can't be that amazing without fucking up your brain" while this actually is exatly he case. Also it is unlikely to last longer than intended because DMT, being an endogenous substance to the human(and all mamals) body, I easily metabolised because the body knows how.
The reason this marvelous substance is forbidden is because, like Cannabis, Psilocybian mushrooms, LSD, Peyote and Ayahuasca it stimulates feelings of relaxation, fantasms/creativite excitement, Desires to live one's Dreams and break free from doctrines of society and state and to claim one's individual freedom ( I speak of my own experience and many who have had similair experiences )

This does NOT serve Capitalism. In fact it endangers it. This is why Capitalist, Market-based societies like ours promote Coffee, Alcohol, addictive Opiate and Benzo Anti-Depressiva, Red Meat and Tea: Good for keeping the working cant colony buzzing along.
Why don't you have 2 cups of coffee and observe the change in your thoughtprocess: It makes you a very efficiant, doing and not thinking, labourer. Caffeïne makes you think very "lineair" and not to mention it is significantly toxic as opposed to the Psychedelics I mentiond earlier.
Next have a couple of shots of whiskey and observe how it slumbers your thoughtprocess. Yet gain a Capitalist approved off recreational drug, because it narrows cosciousness and doesn't make people think "outside of the box" in fact more inside the box. Alcohol is an A-intellectual drug. Besides do you know what big million dollar busyness the alcohol-rehab system is?


Now, by means of contrast, smoke a Cannabis joint, or Bake and eat some Hashbrownes and observe your thoughtprocess. You will see what I'm talking about here makes sense.
Also remember how Cannabis, Mushrooms and LSD are just TOO easy to grow/produce for any individual: The Government just couldn't get a grip on it, because EVERY Doosh could grow Mighty masses of Marijuana and Mushrooms and 1 biochemist with a laboratory growing a couple of acres of Ergot infested Rye could easily provide the ENTIRE United States with LSD as LSD is active in several hundreds of MICROGRAMS.

Too much to compete to; It would just not be profitable for the government to legalise it and besides: They make alot of money from these mentioned drugs by keeping it illegal and criminalized: Busted LSD-manufacturer = KaCHING!, Confiscated marijuana = KaCHING! Jackpot. Marijuana plants could easily fullfill 90% of our fuel-needs, thereby effectively making The million dollar, ecologically devastating Oil-busyness useles. Same for Pharmacuitical psychiatric medicine busyness, Clothing- and Cable-Fiber-busyness and so on and so on. Some WAY TOO politically influential Oilgiants, Pharmcompanies and many other busynesses that see Marijuana as a threat to their profit are going to make VERY sure Marijuana IS and STAYS ilegal.
Money is the stuff our laws are made off and based uppon.
Well from this very same money-minded mentality comes the law to prohibit DMT. Check this out and see how DMT, despite havin alot of humnitarian potential, is being opressed, criminalised and illegalised by Corporates: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8oJmy2PifU

This, amongst many other things, is where my antipathy, distrust and disgust
for our Market-Based Governments comes from.

By the way has anyone heard of Calcium Bufotenate(5-CaO-DMT)? It is the active principal in Properly prepared Yopo and Vilca snuff made from the beans of Anadenanthera Peregrina and Anadenanthera Colubrina trees. this substance is defenitely equally if not more interresting. Look into it.

PS: Don't Mind all the Typos. My keyboard is MESSED up! -_-

I have not been on this forum in many many months, but as soon as I read your post I knew I had to login and thank you for your words. This is the exact same feeling I have had towards psychedelic substances, and it is all very very true. You sir, are a genius. Spread your wisdom and make it known, and perhaps we can overthrow this insanity that is so abundant in the world today.

Originally Posted by dementedpuppy

I have not been on this forum in many many months, but as soon as I read your post I knew I had to login and thank you for your words. This is the exact same feeling I have had towards psychedelic substances, and it is all very very true. You sir, are a genius. Spread your wisdom and make it known, and perhaps we can overthrow this insanity that is so abundant in the world today.

by god, fuck it!
lets all go live in the woods and do drugs
WHOS DOWN!!!!

Alot of people that see DMT and similair psychedelics as sacred spiritual tools should unite and start a new socio-religious movement with DMT, LSD, Psilocybin Mushrooms, Mescaline Cacti, Cannabis, Iboda..and all else that nature offers, as their holy sacrement.

Might this united group of people succeed in getting the official, legal status of "Religion" then they can no longer be prosecuted for cultivating, brewing and ingestion psychedelics and will have a legal permit to do so on grounds of the law for Religious Freedom.

I really feel this needs to be done or we, spiritual seekers, might as well hand in all our civil freedoms right now and accept the cage we've been living in to become even smaller.

People like the members of the Santo Daime church and the União do Vegetal have done this allready and shown us the way to go about this.

Originally Posted by SKA

Alot of people that see DMT and similair psychedelics as sacred spiritual tools should unite and start a new socio-religious movement with DMT, LSD, Psilocybin Mushrooms, Mescaline Cacti, Cannabis, Iboda..and all else that nature offers, as their holy sacrement.

Might this united group of people succeed in getting the official, legal status of "Religion" then they can no longer be prosecuted for cultivating, brewing and ingestion psychedelics and will have a legal permit to do so on grounds of the law for Religious Freedom.

I really feel this needs to be done or we, spiritual seekers, might as well hand in all our civil freedoms right now and accept the cage we've been living in to become even smaller.

People like the members of the Santo Daime church and the União do Vegetal have done this allready and shown us the way to go about this.

lets do it, i kid you not id be in this

SKA, youv hit the nail on the head in this thread. Its a sad state of affairs when the powers to be constently take away our freedom and put a blanket over our eyes. I say if an action you do in this world doesnt harm another human being or life system, then it shouldnt be frowned upon as its none of their buisness. For example; Someone eats some natural magic mushrooms and goes exploring through nature for 4 hours. The only person this MAY hurt is the person injesting...but as an adult they are allowed to make their own descisions in life.

In the UK recently the government drug advisor David Nutt was sacked/made to resign after speaking out that alcohol and cigarettes were more harmful than Cannabis, esctasy and LSD. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...id-nutt-sacked and this a man who is supposed to advise the government about the safety and dangers of drugs, but gets sacked for speaking the truth . What a world we live in.

I have read the book, a very interesting read if you have an open mind. Its full of very interesting experiences conducted under medical supervision. It also goes on about the proceedure he had to undergo to be allowed to study a schedule 1/class A substance. I have to admire Rick Strassman for putting his career and neck on the line to try and understand one of lifes GREATEST mysteries that is DMT!

Originally Posted by Felixplore

In the UK recently the government drug advisor David Nutt was sacked/made to resign after speaking out that alcohol and cigarettes were more harmful than Cannabis, esctasy and LSD. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...id-nutt-sacked and this a man who is supposed to advise the government about the safety and dangers of drugs, but gets sacked for speaking the truth . What a world we live in.

I read it on Azarius yesterday. David Nutt got fired, because he spoke the truth about a subject which his Government is desparately trying to coverup.

They are shutting him up because his plea for the truth is exposing a grand corruption scheme of the Government: They are on the payroll of large corporations that have economical motives to stamp out, illegalise and prosecute the trade/distribution, possession and ingestion of Mushrooms, Ayahuasca, Cannabis, Peyote, LSD etc...

This because these substances are a threat to the profit of their (mainly) pharmacuitical businesses. Cannabis, LSD, Mushrooms and Ayahuasca have all shown to be of great psychotherapuitical value.
Yet these businesses prefer to supply the world's psychiatric patients with devastatingly toxic, addictive depressing, mind-zombiefying and ineffective Medications. Afterall they wouldn't ACTUALLY wanna help any psychiatric patients, because they'd stop being customers: They're making huge profits from our problems so they'll make damn sure our problems won't ever truely be solved.

So we keep buying a lifetime supply of their addictive, harmfull, destructive "medicines" and they keep living large. Have you any idea how many people lost their minds BECAUSE of these Epic-Fail medications? Do you know how many people are addicted to sleep medications and other general sedatives/calmatives?

As you might know Addicts (Nicotine, Alcohol, Ritalin, Opiates and Barbituates; all legal substances) make for the best lifetime customers.

This moneybent motivation is the same that drove influential Politicans to spread misinformation to the public about drugs, place harmless and low risk drugs in the Illigal-cathegory, while placing VERY harmfull, addictuve drugs in the Legal Cathegory.

If one is properly informed Drugs can be used responsibly and safely. If enough truthfull info is avalable people are less likely to use drugs like candy as many do now. This profit-obsessed deliberate spreading of misinformation is hurting the public greatly.

How many alcoholics do we see every fucking generation? How many people are hooked on Tobacco? How many are hooked on Government approved, Legal and doctor prescribed Opiates, Benzodiazepines and Barbituates? It makes me sick. When will the masses see that these laws and regulations, like many other laws/regulations, are NOT in the interrest of Public well being, but instead in the interrest of corporates that are bold enough to break into people's private life and limit their personal freedom and integrety just to secure their own profitable position in society.

^^Well said. The thing that i like about the psychedelic experience is it can make you look at your life and all the decisions you have made, wether big or small, and you will find the actual reasons for behaving the way you do. Sometimes it can be something which you have never really thought about.

I quit smoking cigarettes after a strong psychedelic experience, where i realised i actually didnt even like smoking and sort of did it socially because of bordem. I realised that i didnt need to throw money away on material things which i dont need, Which only makes you temporerally happy until you have to get the new upgrade.

I realised that happiness comes from within and share happiness and love with fellow human beings and not be so scared of other people...like the damn news wants you to believe. Man after you watch it you think that the apocolypse is coming. Has anyone else realised that they never put anything good on the news, its always about the war, or people getting shot, or pandemic from swine flu or the billions of pounds worth of debt due to the recession.

Originally Posted by SKA

Alot of people that see DMT and similair psychedelics as sacred spiritual tools should unite and start a new socio-religious movement with DMT, LSD, Psilocybin Mushrooms, Mescaline Cacti, Cannabis, Iboda..and all else that nature offers, as their holy sacrement.

Might this united group of people succeed in getting the official, legal status of "Religion" then they can no longer be prosecuted for cultivating, brewing and ingestion psychedelics and will have a legal permit to do so on grounds of the law for Religious Freedom..

Actually there is forms of DMT that is'nt illegal. I know where to get it and how much it costs. Idk what type it is whether it is nnDMT or the other form... But nnDMT is illegal.

(Excuse the copy and past)

Chacruna is the most common companion to Banisteriopsis Caapi to produce Ayahuasca (Yage, Yaje), a sacred medicine used for millennia in order to enter the sacred supernatural world, to heal, divine, and worship. Sections of Banisteriopsis Caapi vine are boiled with leaves from Chacruna. The Caapi Vine contributes harmine and harmaline, while the Chacruna contributes tryptamine alkaloids. The harmala alkaloids in the Banisteriopsis Caapi are potent short term MAO inhibitors, which synergize with the DMT-containing Chacruna leaves resulting in what has been described as the most profound of all psychedelic experiences.

The use of ayahuasca and other plant teachers for visionary experiences as well as for healing purposes appears to be ancient. According to tradition, yage contains a sentient intelligence which reveals guidance; the proper steps to follow in case of emotional or psychological problems, and even remedies that may be used for healing.

If you do your studying and find out that this isnt nnDMT but the other form then you can purchase it at...
http://www.shamanic-extracts.com/xca...a-viridis.html

Sorry what other form of DMT do you mean? Like a salt form of DMT? DMT fumarate?

Or do you mean the unprocessed, unextracted DMT plant matter that can be legally bought in smartshops?

Originally Posted by SKA

Sorry what other form of DMT do you mean? Like a salt form of DMT? DMT fumarate?

Or do you mean the unprocessed, unextracted DMT plant matter that can be legally bought in smartshops?

Ok well 5-MEO-DMT is legal...I think.... But this... Is what I found on errowid.
Psychotria viridis (Chacruna) is not a specifically controlled species in the United States. Live plants and seeds are bought and sold and are not generally considered illegal. However, DMT, one of the chemicals contained in these plants, is Schedule I in the U.S. Practically, this means that if an extraction is done on DMT containing Psychotria species, the resulting DMT is illegal to possess.

Yeah, there are a few forms of DMT.

The play "ayahausca" is well know for having a large percent of DMT in it. This plant is also illegal in the u.s

This isn't really considered a "drug" so your not going to be able to walk up to some kid at school and say "Hey, you sell DMT?"

The effects can also last ALOT more then 15 minutes, it depends on the potency and the method of ingestion.

Injected by IV or IM, smoked in crystal form, drank as a boiled tea, there are many ways.

Soon I should take a mini-dose of Ayahuasca right before bedtime. Perhaps with 3 ground up Datura Inoxia seeds added to it.
I reckon it would be the most effective Oneirogen.