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      5-MeO-DMT is illegal in a couple of countries and in some states of the US and probably will become illegal in whole the US in the near future: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo..._dmt_law.shtml
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      where do you guys get DMT i cant find it
      Steve Zissou: Son of a bitch, I'm sick of these dolphins.
      Steve Zissou: Oh, shit! Swamp leeches. Everybody, check for swamp leeches, and pull them off... Nobody else got hit? I'm the only one? What's the deal?
      Steve Zissou:This is the observation bubble... which I thought up in a dream, actually.:insomnia:
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      Check erowid for extraction methods from what produces it; I can work my placebo effect but it grow in alot of herbs and vines I beleive.

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      I have no idea. I have a friend who has a couple of grams, so that's my source. But I think he extracted it himself (chemistry student, you know)
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      yey I have 100 mg DMT
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      i should look this up
      Steve Zissou: Son of a bitch, I'm sick of these dolphins.
      Steve Zissou: Oh, shit! Swamp leeches. Everybody, check for swamp leeches, and pull them off... Nobody else got hit? I'm the only one? What's the deal?
      Steve Zissou:This is the observation bubble... which I thought up in a dream, actually.:insomnia:
      http://dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=80376
      ^^^MY DREAM JOURNAL

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      Quote Originally Posted by Wikihan View Post
      yey I have 100 mg DMT
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      yey I have 100 mg DMT
      I imagine that to be quite a hell of a ride.
      I'm not sure exactly how much DMT I took on the serveral "deep" voyages on DMT, but perhaps it could have been 100 mg.

      Usually I tend to eyeball a +/- 40 to 60 mg dose of DMT, but since I have no accurate scales I could have easily taken a 100 mg dose once or twice.

      The higher-dose DMT experiences have been characterised by a high pitched humming noise, that pitches up and becomes louder and louder.
      This is accompanied by a feeling reminiscent of a hugely exagerated head-rush.

      This feeling, and this noise is soon accompanied by mandalic firework-like colorfull visions. These visions are not only seen, but experienced physically and auditively; as though you're not just watching a vision, but instead as if being launched completely into a visionairy world.

      If the dose is high enough the very notion of your physical existance disappears completely.



      What I found most interresting about DMT is that if taken in humble, low doses (abt. 10 to 30 milligrams) it has a totally different effect than the visionairy 40mg + doses have. A low dose results in perfect emptyness/meditation. It makes one totally zen/calm/clear emotionally and mentally and in this calm, peacefull, blissfull state of awareness I become perfectly inspired. Creativity is boosted to the max.

      Last time I smoked a minor dose of DMT, in a joint combined with Hash, I wrote one of the best songs I ever wrote, drew some of the best drawings I ever drew and wrote down the best poetry/philosophical concepts I ever came up with.

      Not only did great ideas about artistic expression come to mind, but also very therapeutical, psychological/emotional problem solving ideas/concepts came to mind. Ideas and concepts on DMT come to me in the form of realisations supported by related, explanatory visions.
      These ideas have improved my life. Have solved emotional problems deep within me, have made me a more happy and healthy human being as well as an artist with improved ability to express.
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      I'm definitly not smoking it all in one time. A friend of mine weighed it and said it was a bit more than 100 mg. I think I'll split it in four. He said that was a fine dose for a first time. So I'll report back, when I've had the experience.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Wikihan View Post
      I'm definitly not smoking it all in one time. A friend of mine weighed it and said it was a bit more than 100 mg. I think I'll split it in four. He said that was a fine dose for a first time. So I'll report back, when I've had the experience.
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      Quote Originally Posted by shotbirds View Post
      they're illegal because they CAN f*** you up inside
      I'm not sure why people are telling this man he is wrong. First off, you can overdose from Psilocybin and LSD. That is true. I cannot comment on any other psychedelics, but if you really want to know which one will kill you if you take to many, then google it.

      But even if you disregard that (I mean the first time user won't need to use anything near the lethal dosage to get an nice trip going), they can, um, you know, still fuck you up inside. You're diving down and peeling back the very layers of reality. You're peering into the deepest recesses of your psyche. If you think that there is a 100% chance of coming back unscathed then you are extremely naive. That is unless you live in a shamanistic society.

      You think those old societies would have allowed psychedelic usage outside of the shamanistic rituals and celebration? Hell no! I wouldn't be surprised if they made that shit forbidden outside of the which-doctor/shaman's hands.

      Also, I know plenty of people who have taken psychs and are still just as dumb/ignorant/unenlightened as they were before the drug use. There is no inherent 'englightening' property in these drugs. They need the ritual, the guidance, or at the very least a very solid set of foundational beliefs to 'keep ones own goods on the shelf', as it were. Seriously, if every hit of acid made you more enlightened, then the 60's would have been a golden age of intellectual and spiritual progress. Whoops.

      Point being, I've done shrooms twice, my friends have done shrooms, salvia, and acid several times, and we're all reasonably sane. I reckon I'm even better off from my drug experiences. Though if you think these are harmless, you are sorely mistaken, and rather naive.

      Also, if any of you are looking for advice on drugs such as how to get them, which ones to do, and how to do em, just PM me, I can give advice and point you in other places which better information.

      Edit: Though as far as DMT goes, you need a strong nerve. I say take shrooms two or three times. If you can't handle that then don't even bother with DMT.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sandman View Post
      Wow, what a small minded attitude.

      Oh, and it's a great book by the way, read it many years ago.
      You're only a year late on this thread....

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      Quote Originally Posted by CanceledCzech View Post
      I'm not sure why people are telling this man he is wrong. First off, you can overdose from Psilocybin and LSD. That is true. I cannot comment on any other psychedelics, but if you really want to know which one will kill you if you take to many, then google it.

      But even if you disregard that (I mean the first time user won't need to use anything near the lethal dosage to get an nice trip going), they can, um, you know, still fuck you up inside. You're diving down and peeling back the very layers of reality. You're peering into the deepest recesses of your psyche. If you think that there is a 100% chance of coming back unscathed then you are extremely naive. That is unless you live in a shamanistic society.

      You think those old societies would have allowed psychedelic usage outside of the shamanistic rituals and celebration? Hell no! I wouldn't be surprised if they made that shit forbidden outside of the which-doctor/shaman's hands.

      Also, I know plenty of people who have taken psychs and are still just as dumb/ignorant/unenlightened as they were before the drug use. There is no inherent 'englightening' property in these drugs. They need the ritual, the guidance, or at the very least a very solid set of foundational beliefs to 'keep ones own goods on the shelf', as it were. Seriously, if every hit of acid made you more enlightened, then the 60's would have been a golden age of intellectual and spiritual progress. Whoops.

      Point being, I've done shrooms twice, my friends have done shrooms, salvia, and acid several times, and we're all reasonably sane. I reckon I'm even better off from my drug experiences. Though if you think these are harmless, you are sorely mistaken, and rather naive.

      Also, if any of you are looking for advice on drugs such as how to get them, which ones to do, and how to do em, just PM me, I can give advice and point you in other places which better information.

      Edit: Though as far as DMT goes, you need a strong nerve. I say take shrooms two or three times. If you can't handle that then don't even bother with DMT.

      LSD and Psilocybin can be overdosed but one would have to take SUCH rediculous doses of both Psilocybin and LSD to experience harmfull acute toxic effects that such an overdose is very unlikely.

      A usual LSD dose is 1 blotter of between 300micrograms and 600 micrograms LSD. I'm not sure, but this is what I remember.
      A usual, average 1 person mushroom dose is roughly 15 grams (fresh).
      I once calculated a theoretical mushroom overdose and came to the conclusion that to die from a psilocybin mushroom overdose one would have to take around 13 Kilograms of mushrooms. I'm not sure about the exact numbers, but it is highly unlikely to overdose on magic mushrooms.

      For exact numbers and acurate information regarding LSD and Psilocybin inquire www.erowid.org
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      I'd be interested to take DMT but I would want to start with a super-tiny-baby dose first.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Captain Sleepalot View Post
      I'd be interested to take DMT but I would want to start with a super-tiny-baby dose first.
      Caution is the way to go. I only took a miniscule flake of DMT for my first time. Then I gradually upped the dose till I reached an effect that I found desirable yet not too strong. Never quite exceeded that amount.

      Still I can tell you I'm not that affraid of taking a massive dose of DMT ( like 150 mg or more. It's just that 150 MG seems like a daunting prospect.

      Much like diving down a 100 meter cliff into the ocean below: I know I'll be fine but... pffff damn!... You know?
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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Caution is the way to go. I only took a miniscule flake of DMT for my first time. Then I gradually upped the dose till I reached an effect that I found desirable yet not too strong. Never quite exceeded that amount.

      Still I can tell you I'm not that affraid of taking a massive dose of DMT ( like 150 mg or more. It's just that 150 MG seems like a daunting prospect.

      Much like diving down a 100 meter cliff into the ocean below: I know I'll be fine but... pffff damn!... You know?
      I've been doing a crap load of research about DMT. SWIM is planning on doing an extraction sometime this summer. To someone who asked how much DMT is, you're probably better off extracting your own as it's rare to find anybody that sells it. Depending on the quality though it can go anywhere from $100-$400 a gram ( not speaking from personal experience as I've yet to find it and it's winter here so kinda grass it's in isn't growing yet).

      From what I've researched the best way to find DMT is through mimosa bark which I'm pretty sure can be bought over the internet. It can also be found in smaller amounts in reed canary grass,,,or canary reed grass ( can't remember). This is basically the grass that grows around rivers and wet areas. It grows like lawn grass but it has a tendancy to grow in "tuffs".

      This is three videos off of youtube by a man that has studied DMT. The three videos are in order so just watch them in the order I post them. In my opinion this is definatly the best description of a DMT trip I could find. The mans name is Terence Mckenna.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2KnN...eature=related Video #1
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB1C9...eature=related Video #2
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEEkx...eature=related Video #3


      This here is a video of peoples voluntary experiences on DMT.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOJ28...eature=related

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      grow Illinois bundle weed, its wild in many states and completely legal to cultivate. it has the highest dmt concentration of any known plant.
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      If you grow in a tropical country you could grow Mimosa Hostilis trees, Acacia trees and Psychotria bushes outdoors.

      In a cold climate that could be done indoors. Then Psychotria bushes are probably best. Or you could try to keep a bonzai Acacia indoors.

      I read somewhere about DMT; The Spirit Molecule The Movie.
      Oh here it is;
      http://thespiritmolecule.com/dmth.html
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      Here is a video of a guy tripping out on DMT, i thought you guys might like it.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeeSQT4k0tI

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      Isn't it curious, Lucid Flanders, how this guy also mentions "them"?
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      Quote Originally Posted by SKA View Post
      Isn't it curious, Lucid Flanders, how this guy also mentions "them"?
      Not really, even Joe Rogan talks about them. Just means its part of the trip, rather then they are real.

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      Actually Joe Rogan really clearly speaks of this alien humanoid intelligence.
      Perhaps you should listen better to Joe Rogan's words.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CanceledCzech View Post
      I'm not sure why people are telling this man he is wrong. First off, you can overdose from Psilocybin and LSD. That is true. I cannot comment on any other psychedelics, but if you really want to know which one will kill you if you take to many, then google it.

      But even if you disregard that (I mean the first time user won't need to use anything near the lethal dosage to get an nice trip going), they can, um, you know, still fuck you up inside. You're diving down and peeling back the very layers of reality. You're peering into the deepest recesses of your psyche. If you think that there is a 100% chance of coming back unscathed then you are extremely naive. That is unless you live in a shamanistic society.

      You think those old societies would have allowed psychedelic usage outside of the shamanistic rituals and celebration? Hell no! I wouldn't be surprised if they made that shit forbidden outside of the which-doctor/shaman's hands.

      Also, I know plenty of people who have taken psychs and are still just as dumb/ignorant/unenlightened as they were before the drug use. There is no inherent 'englightening' property in these drugs. They need the ritual, the guidance, or at the very least a very solid set of foundational beliefs to 'keep ones own goods on the shelf', as it were. Seriously, if every hit of acid made you more enlightened, then the 60's would have been a golden age of intellectual and spiritual progress. Whoops.

      Point being, I've done shrooms twice, my friends have done shrooms, salvia, and acid several times, and we're all reasonably sane. I reckon I'm even better off from my drug experiences. Though if you think these are harmless, you are sorely mistaken, and rather naive.

      Also, if any of you are looking for advice on drugs such as how to get them, which ones to do, and how to do em, just PM me, I can give advice and point you in other places which better information.

      Edit: Though as far as DMT goes, you need a strong nerve. I say take shrooms two or three times. If you can't handle that then don't even bother with DMT.
      you don't need a strong anything to try DMT. have you done DMT?

      far different from any sort of hallucinogen.

      i think it would be better to say if a person is not able to "let go" or not able to "accept the random" then it isn't for him/her.

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