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      I interrogated a DC about their existence

      Today I had my most vivid LD yet, with total control. It lasted quite a long time too. Well, I interrogated a DC and I got some... amazing and eye opening results. Here's the excerpt from my Dream Journal.

      Soldiers and people were running around trying to barricade or get ready for an "invasion" of the Russian and Chinese forces. While this was happening, I decided to interrogate a Dream Character. I really meant it. I grabbed Waldo, and pushed him up against the wall and asked "Who are you?" He was trying to avoid the question, looking around trying to prepare for the invasion. I pushed him harder against the wall and looked into his eyes. I said "Stop trying to avoid the question. You don't exist, you're just a figment of my dream. You're not real, so who are you?" He looked into my eyes, as he pulled me in closer. Suddenly, his face changed without me even noticing. He was me. He said "I'm you..." I was shocked, looking back and realizing that everything or everyone I was looking at was me. Nothing else but me. This is when the dream took on FULL lucidity. The vividness I can't even describe. I saw every shine and twinkle in my own eyes looking into them. The skin looked the same, strands of hair were the same. I studied it, and in my head I thought "This is... so much more vivid than real life. This is actually happening..."

      So, that's the most powerful thing I've ever done in an LD. It just made me come to a huge realization, and what followed was 10 minutes of intense fighting against russians and asian ninjas. xD
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      Interesting dream, it makes a lot of sense too. I have also had a lucid experience in which "everything seemed clear to me". If I believed in higher plains of existence, that's how I would describe it, it was all very beautiful...

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      Quote Originally Posted by lvlindless View Post
      Today I had my most vivid LD yet, with total control. It lasted quite a long time too. Well, I interrogated a DC and I got some... amazing and eye opening results. Here's the excerpt from my Dream Journal.

      Soldiers and people were running around trying to barricade or get ready for an "invasion" of the Russian and Chinese forces. While this was happening, I decided to interrogate a Dream Character. I really meant it. I grabbed Waldo, and pushed him up against the wall and asked "Who are you?" He was trying to avoid the question, looking around trying to prepare for the invasion. I pushed him harder against the wall and looked into his eyes. I said "Stop trying to avoid the question. You don't exist, you're just a figment of my dream. You're not real, so who are you?" He looked into my eyes, as he pulled me in closer. Suddenly, his face changed without me even noticing. He was me. He said "I'm you..." I was shocked, looking back and realizing that everything or everyone I was looking at was me. Nothing else but me. This is when the dream took on FULL lucidity. The vividness I can't even describe. I saw every shine and twinkle in my own eyes looking into them. The skin looked the same, strands of hair were the same. I studied it, and in my head I thought "This is... so much more vivid than real life. This is actually happening..."

      So, that's the most powerful thing I've ever done in an LD. It just made me come to a huge realization, and what followed was 10 minutes of intense fighting against russians and asian ninjas. xD
      Quick comment:

      Your dream characters....everything in your dream exist, but are not real, being manifestations of the Absolute (which is real).

      As an analogy: Rainbows, shadows and mirages exist.......but they are not real.

      What ordinary people believe to be their self is not real either, though it exists.

      It can be said that all your dream characters, and everything else in your dream is you. But what has just been said takes on meaning on a higher level when one has the realization of Non-Duality, which is the supreme goal of spiritual attainment (one then becomes a Buddha). When one has the realization of Non-Duality, the veil that separates self and other disappears, and the illusion that separates self and other vanishes.

      Though I giving a brief comment, I hope that is helpful to you. Cheers
      Last edited by DarkMind; 08-21-2007 at 06:23 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by lvlindless View Post
      I decided to interrogate a Dream Character. I really meant it. I grabbed Waldo, and pushed him up against the wall and asked "Who are you?" He was trying to avoid the question, looking around trying to prepare for the invasion. I pushed him harder against the wall and looked into his eyes. I said "Stop trying to avoid the question. You don't exist, you're just a figment of my dream. You're not real, so who are you?" He looked into my eyes, as he pulled me in closer. Suddenly, his face changed without me even noticing. He was me. He said "I'm you..." I was shocked, looking back and realizing that everything or everyone I was looking at was me. Nothing else but me.
      Wow.. excellent dream!!

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      That's cool, lvlindless. I must try that sometime.

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      wow
      thats not something u dream every night.
      you know i have always said that when vividness in dreams conquers the vividness of real life, thats when you're no longer dreaming. you are controlling reality.
      "..it's bad anough that you sell your waking life for minimum wage but no they get your dreams for free."

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      Its awesome when it hits you like that, that you notice EVERYTHING no matter how little or small, and the shear vividness of everything is just amazing, just makes you realise just how powerful the human mind is to recreate all this in a dream, because if you shut your eyes and visualise the same thing, you don't see anywhere near as much clarity as you do in these LD's

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      Thats pretty cool, lvlindless. I wonder why he took on the character of you?
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      Quote Originally Posted by lvlindless View Post
      I grabbed Waldo, and pushed him up against the wall and asked "Who are you?"
      Is this the Waldo that you always have to find in those picture books?
      Big ups to you on your ld by the way! I just had my first one this morning!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jared Boz 87 View Post
      Is this the Waldo that you always have to find in those picture books?
      Big ups to you on your ld by the way! I just had my first one this morning!
      lol no, it was my friend Waldo. I figured he couldn't be in the dream with me, so I wanted to find out who he really was. The whole "Where's Waldo" thing kind of applies. =P
      WBTBs = 5
      DILDs = 17
      WILDs = 2
      DEILDs = 3
      MILDs = 12

      Total Lucid Dreams = 38
      Last LD = 02/21/08

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      I believe that i read that Freud believed that every person in your dream is you. So this dream would def. go along with that theory

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      Wow, that is extremely interesting! I've noticed that there are a lot of good theories on here as well. Normally I believe more on the scientific approach of LDing, but the post that Dream Sailor made is definately worth thinking about!
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