Thread: WILD and Sleep Paralysis discussion

I have limited experience with WILD, but I still feel that my hands are the first to tingle and go into paralysis. I haven't gotten very far at WILDing though, but I feel my hands tingling first, then going numb like you said. After that I feel my legs and the rest of my body paralyze (expect my head).

I've had many of these paralysations but I don't know which part of my body goes numb first cuz I don't "test" it. I always go through these stages:

1. First of all, I start hearing this noise in my head, very loud and actually pretty uncomfortable.
2. I cannot feel my body, not that it is entierly paralised, but just like it become more light or whatever.
3. Vibrations.
4. More and more vibrations.
5. Either I wake up totally cuz I tend to be a little too exited, or I feel myself getting dragged up of the bed and landing in a lucid dream. OR it feels like it has disappeared and I can rise up, only that I'm now in the dreamworld, but in my own room etc. Very increadible, that has only happen to me twice, in the same morning .'

How do you know your hands get paralised first, do you try to move them? Or do you only feel vibrations there at first or what?

How do you know your hands get paralised first, do you try to move them? Or do you only feel vibrations there at first or what? [/b]

I feel tingling and vibrations in my hands first, then I kind of lose the feeling of them being there, I can only feel them vaguely. I never try to move them because I'm afraid the whole paralysis process will be interrupted if i do

Originally posted by Jork

How do you know your hands get paralised first, do you try to move them? Or do you only feel vibrations there at first or what?

I feel tingling and vibrations in my hands first, then I kind of lose the feeling of them being there, I can only feel them vaguely. I never try to move them because I'm afraid the whole paralysis process will be interrupted if i do [/b]

same with me.
then the uber strange stuff kicks in and my bed feels like water ect.

Originally posted by Fr0ggeh
I've had many of these paralysations but I don't know which part of my body goes numb first cuz I don't \"test\" it. I always go through these stages:

1. First of all, I start hearing this noise in my head, very loud and actually pretty uncomfortable.

Is it like a very loud throbbing or pounding noise? Because I often get that and I know that right after I get it I am either going into a LD or I am coming out of one.

In my experience when sleep paralysis hits, aside from knowing that my body is paralyzed, my awareness of the body is pretty limited. My attention is usually taken up by the electric sensations in my brain and the incredible whooshing and buzzing sounds around my ears (and with luck, the bubbling and spinning visuals that eventually turn into a dream). From what I can recall, the transition is usually almost instantaneous. I'm just lying there, then I have a sense of premonition. Then I'm paralyzed and the sounds have started, accompanied by the uncomfortable sensations in the brain. I lose track of my body almost immediately.

I've always had a strong correlation between what I interpret as the "speed" of the vibrations and oscillations in the noise, and the distance I am from actually entering the dream state. Has anyone else experienced this? In particular, on one occasion I remember looking up at the ceiling (whether my eyes were really open I don't know) and seeing a kind of bubbling blackness. As the sound would increase in speed, the bubbles would move faster and begin to coalesce into actual pictures. If the sounds receded, the scene would revert more towards reality. Finally, when it seemd that they had crossed a "peak" speed, the pictures became stable and I entered the dream state.

Originally posted by anglicus
In my experience when sleep paralysis hits, aside from knowing that my body is paralyzed, my awareness of the body is pretty limited. My attention is usually taken up by the electric sensations in my brain and the incredible whooshing and buzzing sounds around my ears (and with luck, the bubbling and spinning visuals that eventually turn into a dream). From what I can recall, the transition is usually almost instantaneous. I'm just lying there, then I have a sense of premonition. Then I'm paralyzed and the sounds have started, accompanied by the uncomfortable sensations in the brain. I lose track of my body almost immediately.

I've always had a strong correlation between what I interpret as the \"speed\" of the vibrations and oscillations in the noise, and the distance I am from actually entering the dream state. Has anyone else experienced this? In particular, on one occasion I remember looking up at the ceiling (whether my eyes were really open I don't know) and seeing a kind of bubbling blackness. As the sound would increase in speed, the bubbles would move faster and begin to coalesce into actual pictures. If the sounds receded, the scene would revert more towards reality. Finally, when it seemd that they had crossed a \"peak\" speed, the pictures became stable and I entered the dream state.

i havnt gone from paralysis into dream yet, but the one time i was very close i head this REALLY loud buzzing, at the time i thought it was a massive fly lol

Is it like a very loud throbbing or pounding noise? Because I often get that and I know that right after I get it I am either going into a LD or I am coming out of one.[/b]

U know, I'm not very good at english, so I don't know those words really.. but I'll try to explain the sound:
It is not always the same, some times it's a beep, a pretty clear tune, that is getting louder and louder. And sometimes it's more like.. if you would mix a beep with a fly.. you know, it's like.. a more disturbing noise.. like.. if you put your hands on your ears, tatally covering them, and then start to sound like a fly.. .. tht is pretty much like it.. sry, I'm not very good at english and can't find the right word really.

For me it's like this, I lie down on my back in a comfortable position on my bed, I close my eyes and within 30 seconds I have a blurry outline of my wall and 2 posters, then within 1-2 minutes they come in sharp and the second that happens I go NUMB instantly, then I try and manipulate the HI, as soon as I can I wave my arms until I am completely in the dream when I can't feel my hands anymore, then I just get up and go along my merry way

ok..so when i go "paralyzed", it's not like my body goes numb, it's like this state that i either fall into like im "waking" up to it, but im not really waking up. It's like all of a sudden im concious of the fact that i have no control over my body. No matter how hard i try i can't seem to move a single limb. I can't even control my voice. My brain is perfectly fine, but it seems like my body is in a coma. The worst part about this is....it's exhausting. For about a year I had no idea what was going on and i was fighting in my sleep, as if i was kicking and screaming inside my bodies shell, which was not responsive. Now that i know whats going on, i pretty much awknowledge whats happening and "fall" into another dream cycle.
Also, there is no buzzing, just complete lack of control over my body.

I actually have had some control over my voice. One time I was laying there paralyzed and could hear my brother in the other room, so I tried to shout for him hoping that if he came in it would shake me out of it. Unfortunately all that came out were some hoarse whispers.

On other occasions I've had minor control over my limbs, too. One time I was able to move my hands up to my face. I tried slapping myself to wake myself fully, but I wasn't able to move my arms fast enough. Also, my face didn't really register any sensation, nor did my hands. It was much like my arms were just "asleep". I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, but I often roll onto my arms when I'm sleeping and then wake up in the middle of the night with both of them completely numb up to the shoulders. I used to just thrash my torso around until I was on my back again, because without any sensation to your limbs, it is nearly impossible to move them.

But this has happened to me so many times that I've slowly learned how to "connect" to the limbs even though my brain isn't receiving any feedback from them. Now I can actually move my arms and push my body up with them, but it is fairly clumsy. It's a very odd feeling. You know normally when you move your hand, you feel like the origin of the movement is IN the hand, so to speak. It isn't a conscious direction from the brain (or at least, that's how it is for me). When the whole arm is asleep, you have to rely more on consciously causing the movement. It's kind of like walking around a familar place in the pitch dark. In the light, you don't have to think to avoid hitting the walls. In the dark, you have to use your memory and actively envision what you're doing (unless you're blind, or really used to the dark). Anyway, the point is that when I was able to move my arms during sleep paralysis, it was a very similar experience.

The paralysis then is perhaps not something absolute, but more of a result that the brain has cut the signals from your limbs in order to be able to feed you the dream sensations. Your are then almost unable to focus on your body. When you want to move your hand, you would normally be focusing on the dream stimulus that is already being fed to you, and the dream would react appropriately. But when you get into that in-between state in sleep paralysis, you simply have NO stimulus. Hence your brain does not know where to focus its attention, and you are unable to move. Just a theory, perhaps wrong, but it is the best one that fits my experiences.

yes
and the reason why u feel like your falling when in sleep paralysis
is b/c your mind is losing it's sense of gravity, your actually feeling that part of your mind shut down

I like to refer to Sleep Paralysis as LIMBO
b/c it is between the 2 worlds of dreams and so called 'reality'. . . sleep paralysis, is so sneaky,
It used to scare me so bad when i was a kid, but now i feel blessed, b/c it's soo much easier to lucid dream out of sleep paralysis, its' rare for a person to get sleep paralysis on a regular basis

I feel my arms going numb, then i get this terrible feeling in my head... like dissonance in my mind. . .. I still have to shake myself out of it sometimes b/c it just gets too intense
Sometimes I'll get sleep paralysis like 4 times in one morning. . .
everytime i try to go back into a lucid dream I feel my brainwaves changing over and i go through sleep paralysis... .
I luv it in a 'walking thru the woods at night' way
haha


OH yea... what is WILD AND NILD ?
is that just like terms for paralysis or is it like LD techniques er somethin ?

Whenever i'm trying to wild, after awhile it feels like my body is going up and down every tiem i breathe, but i still am not sure if ive experienced sleep paralysis, if you try really hard can you still move?

OK.. first things first !! WHAT IS WILD ?!?!?!
sleep paralysis ?
yes u can shake your self out of it,
that's the natural reaction any one would have....
b/c it's scary
it's really hard to get out of it sometimes though...........................
also..
like often when i'm trying to get into an LD from sleep paralysis,
i'm floating up and down for a while... .like the further i fall, the closer i am to landing in the dream world ye know ?
Sometimes I just been struggling for like 3 minutes, floating up and falling down,
cause i'll be like falling... and then i'll get excited b/c i know i'm about to have a lucid D. so then I start floating up cause it's making me awake.. and it's all up and down n' stuff. .. .
ha

WILD is going into a lucid dream directly from when your awake, no falling asleep required.
sleep paralysis is the easiest way in.
anyway, i have a problem where i am wilding everynight naturally now, i dont make it all the way into the dream tho

This is all so strange. Today I tried to do a WILD in the afternoon by laying on my bed perfectly still for an hour and a half and nothing happened. I saw some of the flashing during that time, but no colors or scenes. Once in a while I was distracted by sounds and became slightly alerted, and the room was dimly lit, could those be reasons why no paralysis happened? Well, anyway I gave up after about an hour and a half, and my limbs were pretty numb for a while after that, but that's all.

Heres a fast way to get paralisis that I'veonly tried a few times but seemed to work: Relax and "have a dream" do anything, go to the mall in your head or somthing.. Just by using your normal internal vision. you must stay perfectly still but in your head move alot.. Feel the urge to move in real life, WANT TO MOVE but you can. Continue to do the same in your head and bam. I remember getting light paralisis so it could be a good thing to try. (just a post FYI)

Kool
i thought that's what WILD was..
What is NILD ?

I can never do wild at nighttime...
I get sleep paralysis
and I almost get into a lucid dream
but i never make it
In the morning is when I succeed
It seems soo easy sometimes too.. .. .
2 ez

My right hand always get "paralysed" first! Thaught it was some strange thing that happend to me only. Sometimes it gets really "intense" and it feels strange, but if I wait long enough my left hand and my legs begin to "fade away" too.

That's a start. Have you practiced relaxation techniques where you 'will' different parts of your body to relax in sequence?

There are some good relaxation techniques in 'Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming'. I had the beginning of hypnagogic imagery using one of them. When I had that, I didn't get right to paralysis, but I lost almost all feeling in my hands, and they seemed to be really heavy. I also lost most feeling in my other limbs, and they felt pretty heavy. I think the paralysis usually starts with the hands for most people.

Oh, which reminds me. This morning I woke up, and my right arm was completely dead. I couldn't move it at all, and I couldn't feel a thing. It was pretty weird, and a little scary. It was just after I woke up from a dream. I had to flop it around with my left hand, until I got some feeling back, and then I waved it around in the air until it came back. It could have been a lasting effect of sleep paralysis, or I might just have slept on it...