Thread: I've experienced sleep paralysis but this was violent..

Originally Posted by tekmo

Wow Clairity, that must of been a scary experience

True.. but it didn't stop me. I knew there were still many good (lucid) experiences out there.. just waiting for me.

I've experienced something like this also, the old hag or whatnot. I see this is an old thread but I experienced something different a few nights ago and want to se if anyone knows why I felt this. (It was violent)

Well I went into SP and started hearing things, like usual. I just heard my TV even though it was off. Then, suddenly, I started getting intense stomach cramps on my left side that would tense up really tight, then stop, then repeat. Each time getting stronger and lasting longer... It was the most painful "cramp" feeling I've ever had. 100x worse than a charlie horse or something. Any explaination???

Oh ya, when I was able to move again, they stopped. But the pain is STILL there because the cramps were so strong. It was 2-3 nights ago.

Originally Posted by Michael

I've experienced something like this also, the old hag or whatnot. I see this is an old thread but I experienced something different a few nights ago and want to se if anyone knows why I felt this. (It was violent)

Well I went into SP and started hearing things, like usual. I just heard my TV even though it was off. Then, suddenly, I started getting intense stomach cramps on my left side that would tense up really tight, then stop, then repeat. Each time getting stronger and lasting longer... It was the most painful "cramp" feeling I've ever had. 100x worse than a charlie horse or something. Any explaination???

Oh ya, when I was able to move again, they stopped. But the pain is STILL there because the cramps were so strong. It was 2-3 nights ago.

This seems more like a medical problem, maybe laying in a werid and worngly matter? I would speak to a doctor about this maybe they can give you an explanation for it. Muscles and nerves are very complict things. Its nothing paranormal I can tell you that or super natual. It was just most likely a relaly bad charlie horse lol.

my feeling is sleep paralysis is nothing but tension in the body.. hmm.. i talk from my experience..because sp almost always never happens to me..

well..i dont know exactly.. but sp definately not the prerequirement to ld or oobe..

Firstly hi all.

I to have had what i belive may have been a violent case of sleep paralysis that was short lived.

To begin with I was in a dream that was spiraling out of control so i used my method of escape to ditch it (closing then crossing my eyes so it hurts). After a moment I felt my surroundings change so I opened my eyes to find myself back in my bed lying on my right hand side, only to discover that i couldn't move. Naturaly i was intrigued by this so i just lay there mulling it over. After about a minute or so i noticed behind be an "evil" presence steadily getting stronger so i turned all my sencses available in its direction. When i did this i got a VERY unsettleing feeling that it was growing "stronger because it was aproaching me from a long distance at high speed. Just as the presence became extreamly unbearable, It came to an abrupt halt right behind me. For a moment it just stayed there then unleashed a hellish Screem/roar and suddenly began ripping savagely into the back of my neck. At this i was freaking out so i tryed again to escape using my eye trick and sucseded. This time i was fully awake.

Aryaxon, first let me welcome you to Dream Views!

That experience sounds absolutely terrifying! Something tells me you didn't just roll over and try to go back to sleep after that!

My worst case of the presence happened to me long time ago.

While i was dreaming, i had a nightmare and like i usually do when i have nightmares, i wake myself up from it to go into a SP episode. This time it was not just the feeling i was going to get killed by the "presence". This time when i opened my eyes i saw this decayed corpse infront of me, i tried screming but couldn't, then closing my eyes but i could still see it, then it grabbed my back but instead of lifting me it felt as if he was ripping my soul away from my body, this time i was 100% i was going to die. This was the only occassion i ended up giving up and when i did, it suddenly left. After that i reopened my eyes (even though i saw everything with my eyes closed) and i was able to move.

DUDE, I hate those dreams. None of my friends have had 'Old Hag' expereinces so I thought I was somewhat unique. I just found this site today and I'm interested in lucid dreams.

Anyways, I used to have these 'panic nightmares' which I now think are 'Old Hag' experiences. It would be a regular dream and then things would turn dark and bad and I'd be alone. Then I'd get a feeling of unbelievable, pure terror. Trying to scream and suffocating, unable to move. It's such a horrible experience...and I saw the bitch, too.

Then one time while this was happening, one of the walls to my room fell and Machine Head was playing the song Davidian. So I decided to whip out my sidearm Chainsaw and cut the bitch up a bit. Then I took off the Flamethrower strapped to my back and sent her back to hell. Haven't had any dreams since.

Topic thread title - I've experienced sleep paralysis but this was violent..

okay.. i will just say my thoughts from experience...

i think, and feel its nothing but tension in the body...
no witch is sitting on you..noone..just body is not relaxed... + you have much tension in your body..
example - just right now if i ask - is your face relaxed? you will say..of course.. same is then i ask - was your body relaxed then experienced sleep paralysis? - you will say yes..

you are right, because you didnt found your body at ease, or face that why you think its relaxed...
maybe im wrong, maybe you are right.. Its just my hint what could be the problem.

I had a similiar encounter. It’s about 11pm. I’m in my apartment in Lower Manhattan. I’ve been cleaning my house and sort of throwing all stuff that I really don’t need in a spare room next door to my bedroom; ex: spare bed frames, mattresses, stereo system, boxes, books, clothes etc…

When I’m about ready to turn in for the night, as I’m laying in bed, I begin to hear jitter jotter come from the next room, sounded like something moving, I assumed it was a mouse moving around the plastic bags looking for food, being that I lived on the ground floor of a building and it was winter, I made my self believe it was a mouse and nothing more. Upon falling asleep I heard it again and wanted to go investigate it but was too tired and fell asleep.

Hours later I awoke from sleeping on my facing the west wall of my room. My eyes were already adjusted to the dark and I saw everything clearly though it was pitch black I saw a sort of fade light on the room which helped my eyes see in the pitch black of darkness. And heard the sound even louder, I immediately tried to turn over to face the east wall of my room toward where the door of my room is located, and found that I was paralyzed, couldn’t move my arms and barely jiggled my body and toes around, I was like a dying squirming fish and was stuck on my side facing the wall not able to see what was in my house, it really bothered me that I was stuck in such a vulnerable position at this time, I glanced at my digital clock on my radio and saw it was about 4am. I then felt the presence of an entity in my apartment coming towards my room door from where I heard the sounds.

The strange feeling became greater when I then felt someone in my room. Still trying to squirm over to see who it was, the presence was strong and I was sure that an entity or person was in the room walking I heard the footsteps in my room and immediately began sweating profusely and my heart racing.

All I could use was my ears to determine where in my room this thing was and this was quite a vulnerable feeling I felt and heard the being walking around my bed coming towards my sight of vision at the west wall of my room, waiting desperately to see what this was I had my eyes fixed on the side where this being would approach me, and went into extreme panic when I saw a silhouette pure black of a person the being then quickly went towards my face and stared at me, no eyes, no features, just a black silhouette, then the being grabbed one of my pillows and smothered me and suffocated me. I moved about to no avail and went unconscious smothered to death by a pillow.

Hours later I had a FA, False Awakening, and I saw myself sleeping in bed, I actually woke up from my body and left it and stood beside my bed watching my lay there still, I then saw an Indian figure and it told me to contact someone in the real world to wake me up, I tried calling my girlfriend at the time to tell her to wake me up, what ended up happening was she appeared in my dream and I wasn’t able to contact her in real life.

I then felt like I would be stuck in the dream for eternity as the Indian told me I would if no one ever woke me up and I lived alone! Hours later I woke-up soaked in sweat, still thinking for about 5 minutes that a figure would come in a suffocate me with a pillow, I got up and searched the room with a fine toothed comb and found nothing to prove a being was actually there.

That was the most vivid recollection I have in SP and I won’t ever forget it, to this day I tell people this and they really get freaked out and scared. Was I lucid or not? If I was dreaming and was Lucid I couldn’t move due to SP.

Originally Posted by Dream Catcher NYC

That was the most vivid recollection I have in SP and I won’t ever forget it, to this day I tell people this and they really get freaked out and scared. Was I lucid or not? If I was dreaming and was Lucid I couldn’t move due to SP.

I don't blame them.. I got freaked out just reading about it.

If you realized that you were dreaming and believed that you were.. then you were having a lucid dream.

Originally Posted by Magus

My worst case of the presence happened to me long time ago.

While i was dreaming, i had a nightmare and like i usually do when i have nightmares, i wake myself up from it to go into a SP episode. This time it was not just the feeling i was going to get killed by the "presence". This time when i opened my eyes i saw this decayed corpse infront of me, i tried screming but couldn't, then closing my eyes but i could still see it, then it grabbed my back but instead of lifting me it felt as if he was ripping my soul away from my body, this time i was 100% i was going to die. This was the only occassion i ended up giving up and when i did, it suddenly left. After that i reopened my eyes (even though i saw everything with my eyes closed) and i was able to move.

oh. my. freaking. crap. "i saw this decayed corpse infront of me".. possibly the most disturbing thing i've heard all day ....maybe i won't try WILD tonight after all

Sounds like a frightening experience Clairity, but I'm glad that it didn't scare you away from LD'ing.

Now go find the #*@($%! who did this to you in a dream and

Or not.

Iamerik, lol!!

Originally Posted by Clairity

Any tips on how to turn sleep paralysis into a lucid dream will be MOST appreciated!

I find trying to lift my hands or arms works really well; trying to move the fingers might also be effective. The way i would break paralysis was by wiggling my toes so i wouldn't recommend that. Not doing the things that would break paralysis, and doing the things that wouldn't break paralysis are best to slip into a dream. Sometimes just picturing moving a limb will send you into the dream.

Hi Clarity,

This is just my belief, but I'll share it with you. I think there is more to dreams and AP/OBE than people think. I believe it is spiritual in nature, and not something to be toyed with.

I've had a lot of really strange sleep experiences in my lifetime, but nothing quite like that. I find that prayer for protection while I sleep really helps in the dream state. Our spirits/souls are real and acitve during our dreams. I read one of your posts where you talked about the posibility of meeting your spirit guide, but keep in mind that not all spirits are benevolent. Just be sure that you're properly armed and protected when going in to the dream world, that's the best way to avoid a future occurance.

Best of luck tonight

Wow, I really do feel bad for you. Seriously. SP I am not familiar with, but I can deal with any lucid/semi-lucid dreams.

You just have to find out that you are literally the most powerful entity in yourself. Your subconscious and your soul obey YOU. If anyone was afraid of anything, they would be afraid of you. So whenever I feel that malevolent being with those long, silver claws, hooded face etc. I never let it touch me. I feel it behind me and I turn around and go "That's right, you want to test your skills again? Go ahead... I must warn you though..." This is probably the point where it attacks me, and this is also probably the point that I grab it's throat, shove it against the wall, hold it there with huge force while backing away, then completely slam it into the ceiling/walls/floor. While it struggles to get up, soundly deliver my kneecap into what used to be it's face, then, stepping on it's chest, draw out my clean, polished European longsword, inscribed "VERI," then plunge it into it's neck. Any further resistance is met by decapitation/dismemberment/disembodiment. You could even get someone to help you out with this (Just make sure he is skilled in swordsmanship, because swords seem to be the best way to do this) Burning the remains makes sure it is not coming back.

I believe ritualising it in this way helps more, instead of saying "rain, rain go away"

Maybe it is more of a man thing to try and shred whatever is stalking you. I know I certainly like the idea of mauling whatever comes at my with ill intent. I am sure also that you would be fully capable of dispatching said foe. Now, what happens when there is no physical form? Whatever you like. If it is a shadow, sprinkle holy water on it. If it is a force, stop yourself, draw the force into a single, glowing point, and implode it. Make sure it suffers too. Just make sure you tackle it as you would expel the most disgusting demon from the most sacred temple.

Notice that I used the graphic illustrations to further emphasize how much this creature is not going to want to come back.

I sincerely hope that this helped you, and remember, this doesn't have to even happen again. Lightning does not strike twice in the same spot.

(And to those people posting their experiences, that's fine, just try not to post them to scare)

Wow.. this posting was originally done almost 3 years ago!

Thanks everyone for reading and for the advice. I have never had another episode of "old hag" since and hopefully I never will but, if I do, I'll try to remember what you guys have suggested.

LOL, I didn't even check the date, just read the thread! Glad it's never happened again!

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For more information on sleep paralysis, go to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis

Night terrors are also a good thing to look up as most people will have at least one in their lifetime.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_terror
In my early childhood, i woke up from one of these only to see about five severed heads floating in the corner of my room; hallucinations, of course, but still completely horrifying.