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      about this "dream guide" thing

      can someone explain to me about this "dream guide" or "dream master". because it doesnt quite click with me how you need a mentor in something your supposed to have control over.

      or is it a collective fantasy to some people..?

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      It's a recurring DC which gives you advice and protects you. It's not created by you, although it may be summoned, and they help you without being commanded or consciously controlled.
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      It's almost like talking to your conscious.

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      Quote Originally Posted by horsey101 View Post
      It's not created by you, although it may be summoned
      Though technically, everything in your dreams is created by you.

      Also, I'm pretty sure that if you've never heard the term "dream guide", you aren't going to have a random dream character come up to you and say "Hi! I'm your dream guide!"

      If you can fly, throw skyscraper like darts, summon anyone or anything you can imagine, and change gender, I don't see any reason why you couldn't create character to be your dream guide.
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      But you would need to have it reoccur in most of your dreams. And you would need to search for it. Well, most of the times.
      They can be quite fun, actually. And sometimes they say some pretty cool stuff and can teach you LD skills and give you powers. In a world where everyone is an idiot, having a rational and sensible person by your side that can teach you and protect you is quite an amazing experience. Feels like shared dreaming, as dream guides tend to be logical. Maybe even more so than you.
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      When I was young I had a recurring DG but as I've gotten older I don't see that character any more. One of my future goals will be to have a nice long talk with him on the roof like we used to.

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      Any person, place, or thing could potentially be converted into our dream guide/dream guru.
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      Well, no one's really sure where they come from. The most common explantion is that they are a menifestation of or link to your subconcious, or they are a spirit guide manifesting in a dream. What can be said for sure is they are a recurring DC that gives you help and advice, on matters dream-related and otherwise. I've heard it said about them that they "know more about you than you do".

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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidmax15895 View Post
      And you would need to search for it. Well, most of the times.
      If you need to search for it, then that means you need to already know what a dream guide is, which is what I was saying.

      Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
      Well, no one's really sure where they come from.
      They come from you. Everything in your dreams come from you and your expectations. If you expect a dream guide, you'll get one. If you want a dream guide, you can make one. Remember, a dream guide is still a dream character, and, as a part of your dream, can be manipulated as you see fit. They are not a real person, and the only rules that apply to your dreams are the ones you create.
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      Now I'm unsure if I really found mine. I always though my DC was Freddy Krueger. Since I was a kid, whenever I had a nightmare, Freddy appeared and finished with my issue and saved me. In my lucid nightmares, I remember summoning Freddy if I could not deal with my fear. He would come and protect me. However, on lucid and non lucid non nightmares I've never seen him. Maybe I did not need his advice or something, I'm unsure, what I know for sure is that he always protects me.

      I watched the Nightmare on Elm Street series when I was five (all 6 movies)... my dad did watch it so I did... yeah... I have a weird that I know (I wonder if thanks to that I'm a natural lucid dreamer... as they abuse lucidity, false awakening and dream control in those movies Could my subconscious learn somehow from the movies?)
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      @ PercyLucid : Did you see the video on youtube, "Wet Nightmares"?

      @Yarbskoo : Well, I knew what a dream guide was, but I didn't need to search for her, rather, she came to me and all that. Wonder if it's normal?
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      Quote Originally Posted by lucidmax15895 View Post
      Wonder if it's normal?
      If you're dreaming, there is no "normal". Therefore, everything that happens in your dream is normal!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Yarbskoo View Post
      If you're dreaming, there is no "normal". Therefore, everything that happens in your dream is normal!
      Well, there's really no normal when you're awake either.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
      Well, there's really no normal when you're awake either.
      I am the kind of guy who definitely doesn't understand in-depth philosophical conversations, so don't expect me to understand what you just said.
      'The petals dance through the wind,
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      Quote Originally Posted by Supernova View Post
      Well, there's really no normal when you're awake either.
      Does that mean that everything is normal? I smell a paradox.
      i.e. "Everyone is special, therefore no one is."
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      O_O thats exactly what I thought! We'll call it Supernova paradox!
      'The petals dance through the wind,
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      My DG started coming to me before I knew they had a "term." She hasn't come around in a really long time, so, like waving, I want to summon her and have a nice long chat as well Usually, when I was younger, she gave me lessons. I was fully lucid, but she had all the control. And she would take me around and show me things. I don't know what she looks like, I just know her name is Margaret.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Yarbskoo View Post
      Though technically, everything in your dreams is created by you.
      If you want to get real picky about it, nothing in your dreams is created by you, it is created by your environment/experiences.

      Think of your Dream Guide like Tyler Durden, it can tell you all the things you don't know that you know.

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      Unfortunately, due to the levels of violence in my dreams my dream guides never seem to last that long. But they are useful. They kind of look out for you, show you how to do stuff, things like that. I've never sought out a dream guide, they always come to me, and they always have a different personality. The strange thing for me is that dreams are based on our experiences in waking life - therefore a recurring DC should look familiar in some way to someone in waking life or at least an amalgamation. Mine never does.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      If you want to get real picky about it, nothing in your dreams is created by you, it is created by your environment/experiences.
      At the same time though, our dreams, as well as our worldview, are influenced not only by our environment, but how we perceive it. So you could say that your dreams are created by your perception of reality. If you want to get real picky about it.

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      It could be possible that a "dream guide" is a name given to a dream character that is not so much based on a real person, but is all of our teachers and parents all rolled into one. Also, it appears that dream guides, as well as everything else in our dreams, differ from person to person. lucidmax15895 says a dream guide must be searched for, you said she came to you. PercyLucid said his dream guide might have been Freddy Krueger, but MisterHyde doesn't recognize his. I've never had any such character in my dreams, but MisterHyde's had a lot of different ones.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Yarbskoo View Post
      lucidmax15895 says a dream guide must be searched for
      I didn't say that! My dream guide came to me without searching, but at the time I knew what a dream guide was. So you have to know what it is before you can get it. Also, I meant that most people have to search for them. By the way just call me Max. ^_^
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      Okay Max!
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      ^_^
      'The petals dance through the wind,
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      The shattered heart weeps of hidden sorrow.
      And over a pure white sky,
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      Quote Originally Posted by Yarbskoo View Post
      If you need to search for it, then that means you need to already know what a dream guide is, which is what I was saying.

      They come from you. Everything in your dreams come from you and your expectations. If you expect a dream guide, you'll get one. If you want a dream guide, you can make one. Remember, a dream guide is still a dream character, and, as a part of your dream, can be manipulated as you see fit. They are not a real person, and the only rules that apply to your dreams are the ones you create.
      Agreed. I assume that every DC is a lucid DC. So anyone/anything can answer questions about my dreams. So far, it has not been anything like the dog or a clock radio.

      When I have encountered dream guides, or what I think of as lucid DC's, they rarely offer any memorable advise. Only vague remarks like "If you really believe this a dream, our relationship will end."

      I usually become so fascinated with flying and exploring I rarely make time to talk with DC's at length... One of my new lucid goals is to seriously question a DC about dreaming.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MrDreamsX View Post
      One of my new lucid goals is to seriously question a DC about dreaming.
      Yeah, I've never had a lucid discussion of any kind with my DCs. Mostly because they're even dumber than I am during non-lucids.
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