 Originally Posted by Roseeriveter
Tarvus,
Thank you for taking time out to respond. OBE, Im going to assume you are referring to an out of body type experience. The vibrations start off low or dull and build as you described getting very intense. I did not connect that to an OBE. I wonder?! I love your swimming analysis lol My hope in this journey that I actually regard going to sleep as an experience of joy instead of worry if I will make it through the night without the dreams.
So your actively researching how to 'astral travel'. Let me ask if you dont mind, were you experiencing nightmares and such and did that encourage you to look deeply into the amazing untapped capabilities of the human mind? It appears we joined this community round about the same time. Have you been able to uncover useful tools in your journey?
Again thank you for responding.
Rosee
I have been gravitating towards the opinion that an OBE (out of body experience) is a special class off lucid dream, Rosee. I don't like the term "astral travel" because to me, it implies something that I don't believe is necessarily happening. My first experiences with altered dream state consciousness were a number of hypnagogic events. These were weird and a bit unsettling, but I just assumed they were some sort of weird dream. Later, I awoke one morning and experienced what could be described as a spontaneous out of body type event. That was what piqued my interest in OBE's. Initially, I thought OBE's and lucid dreams were entirely different events. I had never had a "lucid dream" but had experienced three OBE type experiences before having my first lucid dream. Later, I had a particularly memorable, intense, and vivid lucid dream which, when it ended, lead to a false awakening type event when then immediately lead to another OBE type event. Since that particular sequence of events, I had had quite a few lucid dreams, but no more OBE events. The OBE's seemed to stop when my opinion started to change to endorse the possibility that OBE's and lucid dreams are manifestations of the same type of thing.
OBE's and lucid dreams seem, of the surface, to be entirely different things, but I am leaning toward the opinion that OBE's are a subset type of lucid dream.
Regarding nightmares, sure - I've had a few in my lifetime, but I never regarded them as anything other than bad dreams. I've never been plagued by them nor obsessed over them after having them. My first OBE was a very peaceful, pleasant event that happened as I awakened from a peaceful night of sleep. My SECOND obe was the one I described with the violent vibrations (which I was deliberately attempting to have), and it totally scared the daylights out of me!
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