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      2 + 2 = 5!!!

      Roller brought up the idea of everybody arguing the opposite of what they believe in a debate. I was about to suggest something political or something, but I decided to start here. Let's say we are a team of attorneys for somebody in a case where he is arguing that 2 + 2 = 5. We might not agree with it personally, but as his attorneys, we have to argue the point. So please give the best possible argument you possibly can that 2 + 2 = 5. This should be interesting.
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      The number '2' has a history of being a whole number, as '2.0000' etc., but that can not possibly be true, as with a number such as pi, 3.14. Pi can be traced back to over a billion decimal places. Can that not be said about 2?

      And it also depends on your meaning and defintion of +. Of course it means adding, but add what? What is behind and in front of the +, of course. '2' is behind and in front of the +, and using the information of the first paragraph, 2 + 2 could easily equal 5, or whatever your defintion of '+' is.

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      postmodernism is good, but not THAT good.

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      (2+2)= one problem
      so 2+2+(1)=5
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      Guy: 1+1=2.
      phihtolphical: Nope, because the cossine of the vector is actually three, therefore the above equation equals sixty-ten. [/b]
      so... 2+2 is realy 180-30?

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      2+2=?
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      Let x = 0

      4(0) = 0
      5(0) = 0
      4(0) = 5(0) (transitive property)
      4x = 5x (substitution property)

      Divide both sides by x.

      4x divided by x = 5x divided by x

      Cancel the x's.

      4 = 5

      2 + 2 = 4, and 4 = 5, so 2 + 2 = 5 (transitive property)
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      The counter argument would be that you cannot divide by zero, but I disagree. Every number goes into itself, and 0 is a number, so 0 can go into itself. Therefore, the argument that a number cannot be divided by 0 is false. 0 divided by 0 is 1 because a number divided by itself is 1. It is also 0 because 0 divided by a number is always 0. So 0 divided by 0 = 1 AND 0. Therefore, 0 = 1 (That is why there is existence from nothing-- the cause of creation.)

      2 + 2 = 2 + 2 + 0 = 2 + 2 + 1 = 5

      2 + 2 = 5 (transitive property)
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      Haha. nice try universal, but that doesn't work for me.
      You fixed the value of x to 0 the moment you used the transitive property

      When you get to the bit where you divide by x ... well, you know what happens when you divide by 0, right?
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      BOOM?

      The universe suddenly collapses ......
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      2+2=5

      This is actually true........2+2 does equal 5, according to the ancient holy book, "the lambs kingdom" discovered by Alfred the XVth. Even though most people will not admit to this system and ignore its truth. Many monks in Peru to this day carry the sacred manuscript and know the secret of the ages.

      According to the ancient old maniscript found in peru on -4506BC, revelations 21. page 2045 mentions this equation, during the contrustion of the underground pyrimids.
      Alfred the VXth, and his 7th fleet, during the days of Anatasia dug this up After the 7th fleet arrived at peru around this time, and after much stuggle. It was perserved and past through the ages and translated. Today it is keept in a secret place away from the masses and governments. It power in the wrong hands would be deadly.

      It reads as follows.

      revelations 21. page 2045.
      "horses thy use for construction in any kingdom, gallop together, in thy presence of the mighty lamb. And its 5th kingdom. If thy horse meet another horse in presence of the lamb. unification of the 5th kingdom shall reveal its glory, unto the addition of it's contruction"

      What this means is, horses representing the sacred mathematical equation of units.
      1.2 ,3,4,5,6.

      Here it mentions the esential exception when 2 horses gather in the presence of the lamb, for its contruction of any kingdom. When 2 horses gather. It tells of the lambs 5th kingdoms glory revealed. The lamb has a history of peace, wisdom and intelligence equated to it. It is is said to belong to gods kingdom. It contains 5 aspects of this kingdom which come together. But only in the presence of 2 horses, to add to the final equation, the two horses make up the 5th aspect of the lambs kingdom. Its feet, eyes, tongue, and robe and the other aspects of this nature which I shall not go into. but is hinted of in the bible.

      In summary. In any mathematical addition or construction, for anything to carry a sacred and mystical quality. The lambs fith kingdom should be used. 1 (horse) + 1 (horse coming togther) = 5 (the lambs kingdom) this demonstrates. 1+1 must = 5 if any addition or contrustion is to work to the laws of the lamb or the kingdom of god.

      According to this ancient and lost knowledge.
      1+1=5 ALWAYS..... unless you are going to deny the lambs kingdom. which is of god.

      This writing is more old the the bible itself and has more authority. It must equal 5. Everyone who understands this manuscript and has studied it understand about this.

      That is why the egyptians were able to build the pyrimids. And carved this equation into its walls. Using the equation in practice. It upheld "the lambs kingdom" and therefore made all things possible in its contruction. Those who use the addition of 1+1=2 will constantly find errors and great trouble in their contruction and calculation of anything. but with this added equation of knowledge (1+1=5) everything will fall into place according the to lambs grace and power.



      HAHA I spent way to much time working on this........

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      Originally posted by Mystical_Journey
      BOOM?

      The universe suddenly collapses ......
      No, just the human brain. You go into a coma, and never wake up
      For those who feel bored: Why can't you divide by zero?

      Now I should think up my own attempt at proving 2+2=5... give me some time
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      We all know that "2 + 2 = 5" is wrong...that is if your adding just the value of the numbers. However, looking at this problem from a strictly surfaced perspective is NOT what is needed in this case.

      We need to find out what 4 items are being added together to produce a sum of 5. For example if you add 2 pitbulls + 2 kittens your sum of total animals would be zero. (2 + 2 = 0.)

      In our problem of "2 + 2 = 5," each of the 3 numbers could represent an infinite number of possible items. So all we have to do is figure out what 2 items could be added to another 2 items in order to produce a sum of 5 items.

      Here is a brief list of possible "2 + 2 = 5" problems that could result when the numbers represent certain items rather than a strict numeric value.

      2 (cases of beer) + 2 (bottles of liquor) = (a party for) 5

      2 (first time party people) + 2 (magic beans) = 5 (hours of massages and saying "I love you" alot)

      2 (possession charges) + 2 (counts of assault) = 5 years in prison

      So as you can see, there are many instances where 2 + 2 = 5.
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      2 (peple called In the Moment) + 2 (brains) = 5 (planets exploding)

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      Originally posted by InTheMoment
      2 (possession charges) + 2 (counts of assault) = 5 years in prison
      That was brilliant!! Well done
      Nobody said we were talking about the rules of maths and the general laws of the physical world. And nobody said they were 2 items of the same type.
      eg. The judicial system has it's own set of laws

      I really liked that one - good job
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      I thought 2+2=5 was about personal freedom to say 2+2=5?

      Thats what i remember anyway.

      Radiohead did a song called 2+2=5 on their Album "Hail To The Thief".
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      Placebo wrote:
      That was brilliant!! Well done * *
      Nobody said we were talking about the rules of maths and the general laws of the physical world. And nobody said they were 2 items of the same type. *
      eg. The judicial system has it's own set of laws *

      I really liked that one - :good job: [/b]
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      numbers are man made.Therefore I can call a 4 a 5 and it will be a 5.
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      it is two horizontal lines that cross the y axi at 4 and 5
      you can't do that on the internet!.... wait yes you can do it again!

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      25 or 6 to 4?

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      Originally posted by Placebo
      Haha. nice try universal, but that doesn't work for me.
      You fixed the value of x to 0 the moment you used the transitive property

      When you get to the bit where you divide by x ... well, you know what happens when you divide by 0, right?
      But I went further and disproved that old urban legend. I also showed that 0 = 1, and no popular wive's tale disagrees with the idea that every number is divisible by 1. The argument that a number cannot be divided by 0 comes from the mistaken notion that 0 cannot be multiplied by anything to get any other number. That is not true. You just have to multiply by more than infinity, unless you are talking about 0 in the form of its other self, 1.

      Nirvanastarseed, excellent work.

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      Originally posted by docthory
      it is two horizontal lines that cross the y axi at 4 and 5
      you can't do that on the internet!.... wait yes you can do it again!

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      Originally posted by InTheMoment
      2 (cases of beer) + 2 (bottles of liquor) = (a party for) 5

      2 (first time party people) + 2 (magic beans) = 5 (hours of massages and saying \"I love you\" alot)

      2 (possession charges) + 2 (counts of assault) = 5 years in prison

      So as you can see, there are many instances where 2 + 2 = 5.
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      2 (days without beer) + 2 (days without ciggerates) = 5 (homicides)
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      Originally posted by InTheMoment
      Placebo wrote:
      That was brilliant!! Well done
      Nobody said we were talking about the rules of maths and the general laws of the physical world. And nobody said they were 2 items of the same type.
      eg. The judicial system has it's own set of laws

      I really liked that one - :good job:
      Why thank you...but it was the whiskey talking. [/b]
      well done.. in the moment
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