There is a commonly held propensity within the scientific ..

**Awaken4e1** · 10-15-2005 09:07 AM

There is a commonly held propensity within the scientific community, which comes as the result of a monumental failure to comprehend the so-called ‘theory of everything,’ and its overwhelming mathematical complexities; also as evasive is the explanation of quantum entanglement and its relation with the atomic, and its respective components, the observation of these components are misinterpret as their interaction between ‘quarks and their (sub-groups) within the relationship of adherence to these atomic components i.e. protons, neutrons, nucleus, and electrons within space, the force of which can be as high as 10 to 36th power times stronger that the force of gravity.

Because of the inability to see the origin of these forces, the completion of the equated relationships evades them. These ‘quarks’ are notably found in clusters, of three called Baryons, or of two (a sub-group) called hadrons, and Mesons made up of a quark with an antiquark counterpart, these are never found alone because their adherent nature. As science grapples with the nature of these elements, and as they seemingly approach an agreed consensus as to their behavior, their behavior changes into a beautiful unpredictable dance of energy.

It is as elusive as the force which holds them in their given constructs. The realm, in which they can not look, contains the unfolding of the mystery of these elements and much other bewilderment. Because of their reluctance’s of their trained minds, to step into that understanding which is not mentally attainable, the necessary leap into the truly unknown escapes them. To go beyond accepted theories is the only thing which will give the trained scientific mind the ability to grasp the understanding that the ‘super-verse’ is alive with ever changing ebbs of expansion, and contraction just as a woman in labor is not upheaval.

This is the boundary they can not cross. Because to admit that the ‘super-verse’ is alive is also the admitting that it is of intelligent design, and that it is even now being designed. This is where they are stuck today. Now, the only thing that gives their work meaning is the fervent compulsion to one-up each another in their respective theories of study. Ever longing to grasp that brass ring, which they believe will validate their life’s work, but in fact it will leave them even more reclusive and cut off from the origin of their true pursuit, than ever. This fruitless pursuit to explain the forces that is. Is just beyond their mental ability.

And ‘that thing’ has eluded them since their computations to explain the world and its wonders around them began. It is the inept attempt to construct a world which fits their bilk misunderstandings found in their feeble ideology, of life without God. They can only delve into that which is seen with the eye, weather magnified or not. Their co-called controlled experiments, are under the scrutiny of those who have no real understanding of the ‘super-verse’ therefore the extent of their experiments are limited within the scope of unenlightened hearts, given the sole purpose of these adventures is to refute the existence of spiritual, and the supernatural being which is the force which holds it all together.

The Rev.

**kimpossible** · 10-15-2005 09:54 AM

There is a common propensity [sic] within the religious community to just make shit up because, in their logical mind (what little is left of it), they smell the bullshit that they call "faith" and see the holes that you could turn an entire fleet of semis around in, doing donuts for all eternity.

**Awaken4e1** · 10-16-2005 03:51 AM

What is the matter guys? ’No substantive reply to this post, or is it contrary to you previous conceptions?

**kimpossible** · 10-16-2005 04:23 AM

There was nothing of substance there to reply to.

**Awaken4e1** · 10-16-2005 06:06 AM

What no comments about taking science classes, or that my theories are ‘as you so eloquently put it 'eating at the kids table'? I guess your not all that versed in all that you think? Huh? Figures!

**kimpossible** · 10-16-2005 06:12 AM

There was nothing there worth justifying with a reply.

Simply "casting my pearls before swine", Rev.

**Awaken4e1** · 10-16-2005 06:21 AM

And what pearls would those be?

**kimpossible** · 10-16-2005 06:34 AM

That's the concept. You are not prepared mentally to grasp the concepts. Hence, "pearls before swine".

**Awaken4e1** · 10-16-2005 06:56 AM

Originally posted by kimpossible
That's the concept. You are not prepared mentally to grasp the concepts. Hence, \"pearls before swine\".

One would have to know the concepts which are being discussed, in order to know weather or not some one else is able to grasp those concepts or not.

But seeing how it was I who began the discussion in the first place I would concluded that it is truly you who can not discuss the subject matter.

If it is true (yours truly) who is inept, then this would be a perfect time to smash me into little pieces.

As is your sole purpose for engaging me in the first place, is it not?

The Rev.

**kimpossible** · 10-16-2005 07:09 AM

Actually, you get me wrong!

I couldn't care less how stupid and deluded you choose to be. It's the proliferation of delusion I object to from strictly moral grounds.

**dream-scape** · 10-16-2005 07:11 AM

you can cut the sexual tension in here with a knife. Why don't you two just make out and get it over with?

or keep your constant kicking each other in the balls in PM or banter where it belongs.

**Awaken4e1** · 10-16-2005 07:16 AM

Okay if that's what you're going with?

**Awaken4e1** · 10-16-2005 07:20 AM

Originally posted by dream-scape
you can cut the sexual tension in here with a knife. Why don't you two just make out and get it over with?

or keep your constant kicking each other in the balls in PM or banter where it belongs.

Thanks for the comic relief man, Cool

**Awaken4e1** · 10-16-2005 07:30 AM

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**kimpossible** · 10-16-2005 07:34 AM

Originally posted by Awaken4e1

How about a little discussion of Physiology then?

I thought this was the philosophy forum?

Ok. The brain, like most organs, degrades with lack of use. I guess that applies to some I've chatted with lately.

But really - what does physiology have to do with the philosophy thread?

**Howie** · 10-16-2005 04:07 PM

This entire disscussion will not likely go anywhere as far away as two stand in your ideas.
So it will probably only result into more biterness and bad feelings.

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**Ynot** · 10-16-2005 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Howetzer
This entire disscussion will not likely go anywhere as far away as two stand in your ideas.
So it will probably only result into more biterness and bad feelings.
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couldn't agree more

**bradybaker** · 10-16-2005 07:14 PM

Actually Awaken, the 'theory of everything' could be revealed any second by some bright young mathematician with a lot of time on his or her hands. That's the beauty of mathematics.

Are you trying to suggest that we should stop trying to advance our knowledge and just accept the much more convenient explanation, "God did it."? I find it hilarious when people use modern technology (ie . computers and the internet) to spread the word that science is a terrible waste of time.

[/attempt to steer thread back on topic]

**kimpossible** · 10-16-2005 07:33 PM

No bad feelings here! More a sense of vague amusement in the form of feeling sorry for him.

Welcome to the party Mr. Baker. A little late, though!

**dreamtamer007** · 10-17-2005 02:49 AM

Wow na Na na na na . Hay Awaken4e1. That’s the kind of response you get when trying to hold a discussion with adults? It turns out they’re kids. They use words on a 6th Grade level. Why waste your time. You could ask them a simple question like what effect could centrifugal force have on light and there answer would be NA na … Lol

**kimpossible** · 10-17-2005 03:02 AM

I'd point you to the work I did on my PhD 10+ years ago.

**kimpossible** · 10-17-2005 03:19 AM

Traditional answer: Centripetal force. Or more specifically, Centripetal Apparent force. Or even more specifically: the component of force acting on a body in curvilinear motion that is directed toward the center of curvature of the axis of rotation. The counter force is traditionally Centrifugal apparent force. Equal and opposite of Centripetal.

Untraditionally, quantum attractors.

You wanna talk applied physics or quantum physics?

**dreamtamer007** · 10-17-2005 03:22 AM

That’s correct! Did you copy and paste?
The intangible force that pulls things toward the outside of a moving circle is centripetal force. The attached physical property that holds or pulls the thing back toward the center is centrifugal force. It’s a combination of the two. What most people think of being centrifugal is really centripetal.

**kimpossible** · 10-17-2005 03:29 AM

Nope! No copy and paste for me, thanks. Hard to survive ten years in hard sciences at Cal and another four at MIT without learning to recite that by rote.

The cancelation of apparent forces is really what's keeping it there. Probably the truest answer is "Nothing keeps it in the bucket". Each force is equal and opposite. So the vectors sum to zero.

That's why it's important to note it's the apparent force.

**dreamtamer007** · 10-17-2005 03:34 AM

I never mete a female that could use a Screw Driver let alone understand physics.

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