Thread: Are You A Lightworker Or A Darkworker?

I am a lightworker. I serve humanity and hold the continuation of our species among my highest goals.

i am like samuel L jackson in pulp fiction. i am a darkworker (tyranny of evil men) but im treing really hard to be a lightworker (shepherd)

hugs and kisses JFK

It always depends on what aspect of life we are talking about. The human is to complex to label him one or the other. in some things I would be a darkworker. but for this poll I believe that my first instinct is to do good. I am a Light Worker

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I'm a lightworker. I feel I would want to spend my life helping others succeed in life. I am happy when everyone else is happy.

Wow, alot of lightworkers but truly I think theres not much diffrents, for example helping others makes people feel good such as myself, you either help others to make you feel good (lightworker) or spend more time just helping yourself to feel good.(darkworker) but inturn you get a veriety of rewards not just moral feelings of goodness.

I guess we will only know what we are at our core when faced with an extreme situation.

What would you do if you saw an accident with a burning bus full of children?
Would you risk getting fried to rescue them?
The other vehicle in the accident spilled out bags of cash, which are now burning too. If you are quick you could grab a bag of several hundred thousand $. But then more children would die. What would you do?
A film crew arrives at the same time. They start filming you standing around deciding what to do. Would you be more or less certain in your action?

A nutter starts harrasing a young woman in the same train carriage as you.
etc
I know this probably speaks more about bravery/ cowardice...


What about telling the truth when you know it will have negative repercussions?

Or standing by your religion when you think it might get you tortured to death?


or my favourite topic of the moment...

Would you vote for a government that uses military aggression to secure its energy resources?
Without easy access to cheap oil your living costs might go up.

Or do you put your money in a bank that holds shares in arms manufacturing companies (thats most of them)?
Arms dealing is very profitable - you may loose money with ethical investments.

Well, in my opinion. You do everything to feed your EGO. So to say, everything you do, or not do. Is based on your own well-being ( in a way )

Since, who would do anything that would cause Oneself in depression, or get hurt or whatever in a negatively way?

Some say " I dont, since I give lots of money to charity's, I'm apart of saving-peopl-activities ( just making up stuff ) or taking the buss, instead of your car because of gas that's infecting our atmosphere. Maybe you take care of kids with problems. or just.. Whatever.

Why do you do all this? - Because you feel good about _yourself_ for doing it.

And by all means, by this I don't think people are Evil and self-good, and don't care about others. I just think that's how we work. We do things, to feed our own ego, to feel good about ourselves.

Originally Posted by Wuollet

Well, in my opinion. You do everything to feed your EGO. So to say, everything you do, or not do. Is based on your own well-being ( in a way )

Since, who would do anything that would cause Oneself in depression, or get hurt or whatever in a negatively way?

Some say " I dont, since I give lots of money to charity's, I'm apart of saving-peopl-activities ( just making up stuff ) or taking the buss, instead of your car because of gas that's infecting our atmosphere. Maybe you take care of kids with problems. or just.. Whatever.

Why do you do all this? - Because you feel good about _yourself_ for doing it.

And by all means, by this I don't think people are Evil and self-good, and don't care about others. I just think that's how we work. We do things, to feed our own ego, to feel good about ourselves.

Ok, this is a fair assessment (and one that I've seen made a few times) but I feel there is more to it than that (in many cases, not all).

I honestly feel the same level of contentment when I hear that others have done good deeds for other people, as I get when I do them. It's not always about 'making oneself feel better' (though, like I said, that's a logical argument). It's about putting yourself in the shoes of the other person, and being empathetic to the joy that is brought to that person, by being helped by a complete stranger.

If you would risk great bodily harm to save someone, someone could argue that you are doing it "to make yourself feel better," but if you feel that same level of warmth in hearing that someone, that you don't even know, risked great bodily harm, to save another person (that you don't even know)....what does that imply?

My point is that not everyone, that helps people, does it to feel that they are doing something good. They do it because they know that "good" needs to be done. It doesn't matter who it is that's doing it.

Originally Posted by Wuollet

Well, in my opinion. You do everything to feed your EGO. So to say, everything you do, or not do. Is based on your own well-being ( in a way )

Since, who would do anything that would cause Oneself in depression, or get hurt or whatever in a negatively way?

Some say " I dont, since I give lots of money to charity's, I'm apart of saving-peopl-activities ( just making up stuff ) or taking the buss, instead of your car because of gas that's infecting our atmosphere. Maybe you take care of kids with problems. or just.. Whatever.

Why do you do all this? - Because you feel good about _yourself_ for doing it.

And by all means, by this I don't think people are Evil and self-good, and don't care about others. I just think that's how we work. We do things, to feed our own ego, to feel good about ourselves.

I certainly agree with that.

I also see Oneironaut's point too. empathy is selflessness like when my drunk friends call me up all belligerent at 2:30 in he morning and ask me to give them a ride from the bar I certainly don't feel good about it at all. But I know what gos around comes around.

Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Ok, this is a fair assessment (and one that I've seen made a few times) but I feel there is more to it than that (in many cases, not all).

I honestly feel the same level of contentment when I hear that others have done good deeds for other people, as I get when I do them. It's not always about 'making oneself feel better' (though, like I said, that's a logical argument). It's about putting yourself in the shoes of the other person, and being empathetic to the joy that is brought to that person, by being helped by a complete stranger.

If you would risk great bodily harm to save someone, someone could argue that you are doing it "to make yourself feel better," but if you feel that same level of warmth in hearing that someone, that you don't even know, risked great bodily harm, to save another person (that you don't even know)....what does that imply?

My point is that not everyone, that helps people, does it to feel that they are doing something good. They do it because they know that "good" needs to be done. It doesn't matter who it is that's doing it.

Well, To risk bodily harm, means that you're empathic. And, if you see a car on fire, and you're the only onl there. This is the " What to do moment - think quick "
Some people, might've just called 911, and maybe tried and help in some way. But wouldn've maybe risk getting yourself burned up and left dead.

On the other hand, some people Might've just run direct to the car and do whatever is in they're power. This still states the same as above. If that one person who actually would risk his/her life, didn't. He/she would probably feel bad about themselves afterwards, and blame everything on oneself.

This is why, one person would react by, trying to save the other person. It's still a ( Feed-the-ego-thingy ) You feel good about yourself if you now manage to save his/her life. Maybe you wont, maybe you'll get badly injured, but then you atleast got the satisfaction of.. at least trying. There wasn't anything else you could do.

So.. I still stand with the argument. We feed our ego, by our actions. ( In a way )

Originally Posted by taltho

I certainly agree with that.

I also see Oneironaut's point too. empathy is selflessness like when my drunk friends call me up all belligerent at 2:30 in he morning and ask me to give them a ride from the bar I certainly don't feel good about it at all. But I know what gos around comes around.

Well, to the same thing again. If you didn't gain anything upon doing this. Nothing at all. Respect, feeling like a kind person, but just does it and the person you drove to the bar at 02:00 didn't stood up by your side when necessary. Would you stil do this?

What comes around, goes around... You gain on helping others.
FEED THY EGO!!

Even though, we as people might not think about it like that, at all. Since it seems to be so, not humanly-good. To actually think that, everything I do, is based on my OWN well-being in any form. Seems so... *evil* might be the wrong word, but. Our empathy of other beeings, does not exist within ourselves in that sense that we'd like, if you think about it that way.

This is what I think, people are afraid of admitting, when it comes to this argument.

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