Thread: Is sanity/logic truly defined by the majority?

You will notice that SolSkye is making perfect use of the unfalsifiable denial=true argument. You can still disagree with what he is saying and it still proves him right. There is no sense in arguing it because denying it also shows his argument to be true. However, the fact that he has constructed it as such, proves it is false.
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Originally Posted by Xaqaria

That doesn't really answer my question. you say that we are all escaping acceptance of the fact that we are " ...dream characters [that] are all equally inter-connected subconscious parts of the dream..." but the majority does not believe this to be true, and it is by no means a self evident capital T Truth that we are all denying. The majority does not even consider what you claim we are trying to escape from as reality, and so are not actually trying to escape from anything.

This is like saying that since you don't celebrate Christmas (hypothetically), you are trying to escape from realizing and accepting the existence of Santa Claus.

You simply believing in the singularity of all existence does not make it the truth and those that do not believe in that possibility are not purposely avoiding acceptance of your beliefs.

It's not quite like saying Santa Claus exists because any rational mind would know, he doesn't. However, if you were to systematically go back through the lineage of this universe you could trace an invisible line back between everyone and everything inter-connecting them.

Why would you assume because you can't actively and readily perceive that connection now that it still isn't there beneath the surface waiting to be perceived if contemplated or meditated on enough? When all signs in the known universe point to yes, what else is there except outright denial?

Originally Posted by tommo

Watch the movie 12 Monkeys, or if you cbf the main scene which outlines this is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB0dvgCZ4Q0

Damn you just gave a big hint to where that sample in my song was from.

Originally Posted by O'nus

You will notice that SolSkye is making perfect use of the unfalsifiable denial=true argument. You can still disagree with what he is saying and it still proves him right. There is no sense in arguing it because denying it also shows his argument to be true. However, the fact that he has constructed it as such, proves it is false.
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One can't possibly construct what was already there.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

One can't possibly construct what was already there.

QED; unfalsifiable.
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Originally Posted by SolSkye

It's not quite like saying Santa Claus exists because any rational mind would know, he doesn't. However, if you were to systematically go back through the lineage of this universe you could trace an invisible line back between everyone and everything inter-connecting them.

Why would you assume because you can't actively and readily perceive that connection now that it still isn't there beneath the surface waiting to be perceived if contemplated or meditated on enough? When all signs in the known universe point to yes, what else is there except outright denial.

Saint Nicholas was a Bishop of Myra during the third century. He is the patron saint of sailors, merchants, archers, children, and students in Greece, Belgium, Bulgaria, Georgia, Russia, the Republic of Macedonia, Slovakia, Serbia and Montenegro and he most definitely exists both in a physical sense and in a metaphysical sense in the same way that politics, philosophy, love, hate, greed, and altruism exist.

Now that I've shown how your sense of the rational mind is actually completely contrary to what the rest of us see as reality, it should be easier for you to understand why perhaps your views on the subject are merely dismissed by the general public and not 'feared'.

Ok, I walked right into that one. I meant it means he clearly doesn't exist as we portray him as this timeless image that delivers gifts every year.

The universe and the ties that bind, however, is still up in the air. And for those that think long and hard enough about it, it's not up in the air or on the ground anymore.

Originally Posted by SolSkye

Damn you just gave a big hint to where that sample in my song was from.

HAHA, I just read this thread and as soon as I saw divergent I instantly thought of the same movie as you lol! Then I see you made a song from that. I will listen to it tomorrow coz' I don't have my headphones here right now.

On topic: so really either we are all sane or all insane; unless someone is truely insane like kept in a madhouse or something.

Who's to say these people are insane?
Exactly what we are discussing is what makes people insane or sane. I'm sure we all agree it is society that defines it, or psychologists or whomever. But I'm not sure if we agree on this, I'm tired now and couldn't understand a lot of what was being said.

SolSkye I didn't know you were schizophrenic, I might just do what you said and go back and read a few of your earlier posts and read that thread you posted the comment in that you quoted here, got a link to it? I'll have to look tomorrow, kinda tired.
By saying that you've improved heaps have you been on medication or something? or psychologist/iatrist?

Peace all, Sweet LD's

I'm not a schizophrenic, at least I hope I'm not. I'm what you would call eccentric.

Oh woops it was O'nus that said that lol

Originally Posted by tommo

Oh woops it was O'nus that said that lol

Just look in "Dream View Favorites" for "Hi, I'm new please read". It was my first post.
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Originally Posted by O'nus

Just look in "Dream View Favorites" for "Hi, I'm new please read". It was my first post.
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Huh? look there for what? I was looking at your first posts from 2003 yesterday by the way, to see your poverty of speech. I couldn't recognise a lot of difference, not being mean, it's just that it wasn't bad at all.
I stumbled across the one where you posted that movie thing, I thought that was your first post? The one where it takes ages to load and nothing much happens. Anyway so yeh, why look at your Hi, I'm new please read thread? I couldn't find it in the favorites by the way.