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    1. 03-31-2008 06:58 PM #51
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      Quote Originally Posted by L815 View Post
      they timed the space shuttle off into space as well as another click here on earth. Both atomically accurate at the same start time, the clock on the space shuttle progressively went faster the farther and faster it traveled from the take off point.
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      Actually, relative time slows down with acceleration, it doesn't speed up.
      Xaqaria is correct, even though L815 is half-correct.

      The difference in the clock on the space shuttle was not due to speed. The speed of the space shuttle is too slow by many orders of magnitude to make much of a difference in the clocks. As it happens, the clocks on the shuttle do move faster than those on Earth, but not due to the speed of the craft. The difference is due to gravitational force. The more an object is affected by gravity, the slower time passes for it. This is why time theoretically comes to a stop inside a black hole.
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    2. 03-31-2008 08:02 PM #52
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      So there are several factors that affect time perception:

      - Mass
      - Speed in relation to a "static" object
      - Speed in relation to a "non-static" object

      Am I correct?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      So there are several factors that affect time perception:

      - Mass
      - Speed in relation to a "static" object
      - Speed in relation to a "non-static" object

      Am I correct?
      Gravitational pull and velocity are the only two forces I know that affect time.

      Time perception can be affected by many different forces, including alcohol, lectures, commercials, waiting for busses and elevators, and general dementia.
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    4. 03-31-2008 08:11 PM #54
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      Time is all perception is what I was getting at...

      And velocity would be it's speed in RELATION to both a static and non static object. The other is gravitational force: mass.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Time is all perception is what I was getting at...
      I didn't get that that is what you were getting at. Still don't, really.

      And velocity would be it's speed in RELATION to both a static and non static object.
      Two different measurements of the same phenomenon.

      The other is gravitational force: mass.
      Gravitational force is not mass.
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    6. 03-31-2008 08:17 PM #56
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      Quote Originally Posted by skysaw View Post
      I didn't get that that is what you were getting at. Still don't, really.


      Two different measurements of the same phenomenon.


      Gravitational force is not mass.
      1. Okay... Wait, which part didn't you get?
      2. Yes, but the measurements are different, that's what matters. One object moving toward another not moving only changes time for the moving object, but two objects speeding by eachother affects both.
      3. But mass dictates gravitational force.
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