Thread: Minervas philosophy is your worst nightmare and you can't beat it.

You just admitted you need to train me to understand what you are saying.. you also said you aren't going to explain the philosophy using an easy path, I'm thinking thats logic.

Your complex misleading bullshit is called trolling. Bye now.

You are mislead I am not misleading you. You are also confusing free thought with acts of maliciousness. I am a very polite and reasonable person if you are respectful. I'm even more accommodating to those who value a civil conversation and never name call or curse who have similar values and ideals. Logic is not always easy otherwise people would have more of it. I try to restrict negative insinuations and judgments as much as it is productive to the situation, but am not immune or an expert at thinking purely myself so there is no guarantee of perfection. The important thing is my effort to be honest and clear about where I stand and to correct past mistakes, improve and move on.

If that's makes me trolling. Then I don't know who you are.

Bye and good luck to you for now but I'm assuming this is not the last time we will speak.

Things are quite simple

Its expanding on the simplicity that gets one lost

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

I know it may be very difficult for you to think outside of your box. Try and realize that I don't disagree with the fact that is a brick. I know it's a brick.

Can we start with I know that is a brick? Now to the next embarrassingly obvious observation. What is the brick made out of? Try and get to the core of what a brick is made out of.

I and a friend of mine have in fact, discussed the nature of bricks to some length.....

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

You are mislead I am not misleading you. You are also confusing free thought with acts of maliciousness. I am a very polite and reasonable person if you are respectful. I'm even more accommodating to those who value a civil conversation and never name call or curse who have similar values and ideals. Logic is not always easy otherwise people would have more of it. I try to restrict negative insinuations and judgments as much as it is productive to the situation, but am not immune or an expert at thinking purely myself so there is no guarantee of perfection. The important thing is my effort to be honest and clear about where I stand and to correct past mistakes, improve and move on.

If that's makes me trolling. Then I don't know who you are.

Bye and good luck to you for now but I'm assuming this is not the last time we will speak.

All I'm asking is that you tell me what your philosophy is about in clear plain english. You still haven't told me if what I said was your philosophy. I asked you nicely.

Second explain to me how your philosophy be depended on and practiced with results simultaneously in physical, emotional, and spiritual levels of a human beings experience?

You said

Posting you a response is the easy magical path to solve your curiosity that is the wrong way. In other words it cannot be done without proper training. Yet I could show you if you wished.

Then you said

You are also confusing free thought with acts of maliciousness. I am a very polite and reasonable person if you are respectful.

How do you expect me to be so kind when I have no idea what you are talking about, and when you insult my intelligence? I'm wishing so please tell me.

I shall restate the statement of a teacher who taught me:
1+1=3

Together they may also equal something more, only two, or less than what alone they were before (my addition).

Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman

I shall restate the statement of a teacher who taught me:
1+1=3

Together they may also equal something more, only two, or less than what alone they were before (my addition).

I wonder who this is.. I can tell by the fact that this post makes no sense. Philosophies aren't riddles honey.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

I wonder who this is.. I can tell by the fact that this post makes no sense. Philosophies aren't riddles honey.

My appologies! I didn't mean for it to be a riddle. I meant to say that if 1+1 is looked at from another perspective, it doesn't have to equal 2! Hmm, think back to Sex Ed? Or in the case of a negative (less than what alone they were before), think of Raskolnikov?

Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman

My appologies! I didn't mean for it to be a riddle. I meant to say that if 1+1 is looked at from another perspective, it doesn't have to equal 2! Hmm, think back to Sex Ed? Or in the case of a negative (less than what alone they were before), think of Raskolnikov?

EDIT

Oh I get what your talking about. Sorry about being an ass.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

I wonder who this is.. I can tell by the fact that this post makes no sense.

Yeah, I can sense that we are somewhere in the ballpark of a conversation about slices of pie that we cut but then didn't do anything so there are five slices and none aside from four.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Yeah, I can sense that we are somewhere in the ballpark of a conversation about slices of pie that we cut but then didn't do anything so there are five slices and none aside from four.

Don't forget the all-important Golden Ratio, it's in every number!
Plus, it proves everything.... through fractals!

Originally Posted by adam has a dream

Don't forget the all-important Golden Ratio, it's in every number!
Plus, it proves everything.... through fractals!

Oh yeah, I left out what makes it all make sense.

Originally Posted by NonDualistic

Things are quite simple

Its expanding on the simplicity that gets one lost

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I have come to something ND. It has changed me, though these words deceive.

It is not possible to be explained with any accuracy.

There is peace.
I am at a sort of station, waiting for the train to come, but not waiting - just witnessing, or even less.

I cannot move, there is nowhere. I am not searching, though the sought is not.

I am just expressing, and when I am not there is meditation. Even through this expression, by and by I am losing attention.

These words are not me. The writer will not be found, for I didn't write the words.

I am watching these hands tap to and fro. Is this really expression? Nothing can be expressed, this is just an melodamatic act.

What an amusing thread.

Minerva, I think your main problem is that you are relying on vast stretches of the imagination to provide "technicality" responses (which are not necessarily answers) - some of which are just plain irrational - to try to make a point that you believe is universal, when it's not.

Unless you are just trolling/joking, then you are convincing yourself that many of the responses you've given are adequate, just enough to where you believe you could pass it off in context, and when people call you out on it, you play it off as if you're just too complex for them to understand. The title of this thread says it all. You came into the topic being completely pretentious, and now you have to keep up the illusion that you know what you're talking about, at all cost, or your entire "philosophy" falls.

In many cases, the concept that you're hinting at does hold some weight, but it is not as definitive or universal as you obviously think it is, depending the variables - as evidenced by some of the "answers" you've given to stumper questions.

Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix

There can be no first cause of reality. If there was a first cause. It could only be every cause existing in an infinite chain of causes and effects. The effect would have to be the cause. And all those causes and effects would not be able to differ from the original cause. That is because nothing could be taken away or added to the original cause as it would be the only thing that could possibly exist. This means that you cannot define or conclude a cause or effect for anything as it will continually elude your intelligence.

Everything just is. Meaning that hte universe just is, infinite, and the cause is the effect. I think you have it right which surprises me cause most people cannot even begin to grasp the reality behind your philosophy, but I do I think much the same. Which also surprises me and scares me.

Everything we see and observe is the cause and the effect they are one and the same thing. wow you said that too. Ok I'm going to quit talking now cause my answer is just the same as your original statement.
I can't believe there is someone else who understands infinity. this is extremely rare. Why can't I find a woman like that? It pains me to now know they do exist and I haven't found one.

There are some things that prove the point of this philosophy.

like the:
Fibonacci spiral
the Mandelbrot's set
the Sierpinski's gasket
And I even have one of my own that i haven't published yet. so Its a secret for now.
these thins are there own cause and effect that can go to any size and dimension and still grow or shrink to an infinite scope.

Might I add that when considering Russell's Paradox, you all are correct!

Also quantum mechanics and entropy!
And the price of fish in China!

Originally Posted by adam has a dream

Also quantum mechanics and entropy!
And the price of fish in China!

I'm not sure how to respond to this.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

EDIT

Oh I get what your talking about. Sorry about being an ass.

It was just a thought. I don't think you are an ass.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Yeah, I can sense that we are somewhere in the ballpark of a conversation about slices of pie that we cut but then didn't do anything so there are five slices and none aside from four.

Universal Mind, have you heard of Carl Jung? I think you might like him.

Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman

I'm not sure how to respond to this.

Fractals?

Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman

Universal Mind, have you heard of Carl Jung? I think you might like him.

Collective unconscious of the golden fractals?

I wonder where Minerva has gone? Perhaps she's just poking around?

Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman

I'm not sure how to respond to this.

Hey, do you know where Minervas is? You must have chased her away or something.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Collective unconscious of the golden fractals?

Collective Unconscious, yes!

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Hey, do you know where Minervas is? You must have chased her away or something.

No I don't. You think I could do that?

Originally Posted by InvisibleWoman

No I don't. You think I could do that?

Only when she spins around and turns into you Wonder Woman style.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G6VouxNKc...eature=related

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Only when she spins around and turns into you Wonder Woman style.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=G6VouxNKc...eature=related

Oh my! Are you trying to suggest something? I'm terribly puzzled.