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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      There is no such thing as sex without love? It is the most common kind.
      what evidence do you have that loveless sex pops out children? whether it is or it isn't the most common kind isn't the point. the point is love is the reason why humanity has continued. NOT LOVELESS SEX.

      if two people do not love each other, they take precautions or go to extremes to guarantee a child is not born.

      humanity for its large part is monogamous. and has been for a large chunk of its history. why? long term partnership is apart of human EVOLUTION. It is apart of how evolution has written out how a child should grow into an adult. The ape men BEFORE us were monogamous. We DO NOT descend from ape men running round having sex. We descend from a people who valued a long term relationship. Many men and women today, STILL INSTINCTUALLY desire that long term relationship with someone, and will do lots of silly things to get it. Romance has become an animalistic drive. But even in its animalistic drive its still a desire to find someone to love. Not just someone to have sex with and not love.

      the partner that many people desire is also the partner they see themselves having children with. and they do NOT want to have children if its not this long life partner.

      You are born because someone loved you. Not because someone had sex. Someone loved you at least long enough to carry you for nine months.

      If neither your mother or your father loved you, you would not have been born. This is true for everyone on earth. You would not have been born if no one loved you. They would have saw to your death. Humanity has not carried on because of sex. It has carried on because of love, and sex, and the two together.

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      what evidence do you have that loveless sex pops out children? whether it is or it isn't the most common kind isn't the point. the point is love is the reason why humanity has continued. NOT LOVELESS SEX.

      if two people do not love each other, they take precautions or go to extremes to guarantee a child is not born.

      humanity for its large part is monogamous. and has been for a large chunk of its history. why? long term partnership is apart of human EVOLUTION. It is apart of how evolution has written out how a child should grow into an adult. The ape men BEFORE us were monogamous. We DO NOT descend from ape men running round having sex. We descend from a people who valued a long term relationship. Many men and women today, STILL INSTINCTUALLY desire that long term relationship with someone, and will do lots of silly things to get it. Romance has become an animalistic drive. But even in its animalistic drive its still a desire to find someone to love. Not just someone to have sex with and not love.

      the partner that many people desire is also the partner they see themselves having children with. and they do NOT want to have children if its not this long life partner.

      You are born because someone loved you. Not because someone had sex. Someone loved you at least long enough to carry you for nine months.

      If neither your mother or your father loved you, you would not have been born. This is true for everyone on earth. You would not have been born if no one loved you. They would have saw to your death. Humanity has not carried on because of sex. It has carried on because of love, and sex, and the two together.
      Two words...

      Teen Pregnancies.
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      Quote Originally Posted by bluefinger View Post
      Two words...

      Teen Pregnancies.
      so..big deal.

      you're saying teens are incapable of love?

      teens are not incapable of love. teens are not incapable of loving each other and getting it on. they do this all the damn bloody time..

      WHEN THEY ARE OLDER, they might realize it wasn't true love. or maybe they will say it was real love. There are teens who fall in love and marry and its just a dream.

      many many many MANY teens really did believe they were in love. and many young women, who know they can get pregnant, don't care. why? because they honestly believe their man loves them and will support them even if they do

      and to the members of whom it happened in my family to, they did believe they were in love. did they stay in love? did they eventually get married? no, not necessarily. but thats why teen pregnancies can be tragic, because you change as you grow up and you are more than likely NOT going to love this person for the rest of your life.

      you are also ignoring the comment I said about you could not have been born if no one loved you. this is true. this is ABSOLUTELY TRUE! have some respect for your mother.

      there are teen females, even after being abandoned by their family, abandoned by their 'man' still go through with the pregnancy. they loved the developing child enough to do this for it. to let it live. and let's not underestimate how much a teen mother loves her child. because many have to overcome so many obstacles just being pregnant. from depression to social outcasting, to even abuse.

      and many many people are ALIVE today because of teenage motherhood. do not disrespect all that the teenage mother goes through just to have her child live.

      in comparison, do not bloody underestimate teenage girls who do not love what they would call the PARASITE inside their being. I knew many females in high school, who had a NUMBER of abortions. many teenagers have had abortions. many have had more than I want to count. Do these pregnancies add to the human existence, do they carry on the human race????

      NOOOOOOOOO. OBVIOUSLY NOT.

      SOMEONE LOVED YOU, THUS YOU WERE BORN. but this is a story most teenage guys, and PATHETIC adult men for that matter, will never understand.

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      so..big deal.

      you're saying teens are incapable of love?

      teens are not incapable of love. teens are not incapable of loving each other and getting it on. they do this all the damn bloody time..

      WHEN THEY ARE OLDER, they might realize it wasn't true love. or maybe they will say it was real love. There are teens who fall in love and marry and its just a dream.

      many many many MANY teens really did believe they were in love. and many young women, who know they can get pregnant, don't care. why? because they honestly believe their man loves them and will support them even if they do

      and to the members of whom it happened in my family to, they did believe they were in love. did they stay in love? did they eventually get married? no, not necessarily. but thats why teen pregnancies can be tragic, because you change as you grow up and you are more than likely NOT going to love this person for the rest of your life.

      you are also ignoring the comment I said about you could not have been born if no one loved you. this is true. this is ABSOLUTELY TRUE! have some respect for your mother.

      there are teen females, even after being abandoned by their family, abandoned by their 'man' still go through with the pregnancy. they loved the developing child enough to do this for it. to let it live. and let's not underestimate how much a teen mother loves her child. because many have to overcome so many obstacles just being pregnant. from depression to social outcasting, to even abuse.

      and many many people are ALIVE today because of teenage motherhood. do not disrespect all that the teenage mother goes through just to have her child live.

      in comparison, do not bloody underestimate teenage girls who do not love what they would call the PARASITE inside their being. I knew many females in high school, who had a NUMBER of abortions. many teenagers have had abortions. many have had more than I want to count. Do these pregnancies add to the human existence, do they carry on the human race????

      NOOOOOOOOO. OBVIOUSLY NOT.

      SOMEONE LOVED YOU, THUS YOU WERE BORN. but this is a story most teenage guys, and PATHETIC adult men for that matter, will never understand.
      Shit happens in the world... people do get born into a loveless situation, and also with the teen pregnancies, you do get the occasional story still pop up on a teen not knowing they were pregnant only to find out too late. If they didn't know they were pregnant (through not being taught about it properly, etc), how could they love the foetus developing within?

      I was lucky, I was born to the love of a mother, but not a father. My father was actually an abusive asshole who couldn't give a shit about me. But I was lucky that I still had my mother.

      You talk about it being absolute. There are no such things as absolutes. Reality can be a harsh mistress indeed, and whilst most are born into loving relationships, not all do. Also, appeals to ridicule do not serve to strengthen your argument.
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      Do or can erotica, modeling and pornography objectify women?
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      I think some modeling or porn does objectify them and treat them like their just eye-candy, so yes, but there are respectable modeling places that don't imo, but im not sure about the porn part, I'm not sure what to think of it, heck even some women run porn movies, as in directing and stuff...so im not too sure, maybe some porn objectifies them and some doesn't?

      I'm no expert but i think women being treated like a piece of meat is wrong and should just stop already.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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