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      fridge and oven stop working hahaha

      well id say it depends on how the press handle it. Most people never hear about things this radical until they read a newspaper article on it or hear a news report.
      thats the 'joe average' person. If the press decide that it would be a good idea to cash in on the 2012 stories then people WILL belive them.
      but,like 2000,the whole thing comes together a few months before, so we may not hear anything on the news about 2012 for a while until the 'last moment' before the actual date.
      but i,personally think its bullshit. some people thought strongly on 2000,and if the press decides it so,they can incite fear on 2012 as well.

      well i personally dont belive in 2012 theories,and im not certain that this 'mass fear' will happen,as nowone can tell how big the idea will be at the cumulation time. im just presenting ideas and thoughts.

      but if it did happen and mans downfall came with thinking the end of the world was 2012 and social/economic and possibly political disorder ensues then i think it would be safe to say that fate is not without a sense of irony.

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      well for me i do not beleve in the "end of the world" (the earth is round duh) but i blelive in "the end of the world AS WE KNOW IT" i have heard this one alot "bla bla bla the end of the world as we know it yada yada bla bla..." i take this as one the 2012 if it is based on the mayan civilization the world as we know it will be gone giving us unlimited possibliitys

      1. "The great flood possibility" there could be a great flood purging the world of evil.

      2. "Return of Christ possibility" this could change the world as we know it for sure

      3. "Nuke possibility" we could have a nukular war

      4. "Alien contact possibility"
      A. this could cause world wide panic and they could rampage cities to rubble
      B. we gain a giant leep in knowleage from them

      5. "cure possibility" We find the a cure for cancer or parkinsons or other desises like them

      .... as you can see there could be many ways to change the world AS WE KNOW IT.
      you can't do that on the internet!.... wait yes you can do it again!

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      http://www.levity.com/eschaton/Why2012.html

      Pretty interesting stuff. SOMETHING profound, cosmically-speaking, will happen, whether it affects us directly or not!
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      Originally posted by docthory
      5. \"cure possibility\" We find the a cure for cancer or parkinsons or other desises like them
      6. You learn to spell!
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      I just dug this topic up: http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic....highlight=mayan

      I think it's before we had the philosophy section actually.

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      Originally posted by Finde+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Finde)</div>
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      5. \"cure possibility\" We find the a cure for cancer or parkinsons or other desises like them
      6. You learn to spell![/b]

      stop correcting me please
      you can't do that on the internet!.... wait yes you can do it again!

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      finde's on a rampage

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      Why shouldn't I be? And I can correct you if I like... I correct almost anyone
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      Oh dear. That's two people that need a "time out" now. >:|

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      heh... no
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      No seriously Kaniaz you need to be a moderator.

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      No seriously Kaniaz you need to be a moderator[/b]
      Good call. Kaniaz seems to do it more than the Mods. Kaniaz, you rock.
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      I bet on that fateful day in 2012, I will have no clean pants anywhere in my dorm, therefore causing mass panic, and forcing me to go down to the laundry room in *gasp* dirty pants..

      And yes, that would change the world as we know it.
      You guys suck.

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      The Panic may also be caused by increased military tensions near the year 2012--reposition of forces near crucial targets, biological attacks in other countries, etc. Maybe even similiar "Patriot Acts" in other coutries. Maybe 2012 may bring revolution...

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      May I remind you that this is the Philosophy room, and not Senseless Banter, and not even the lounge. You are very quick to praise Kaniaz and say that he deserves moderatorship, but one of the mod's responibilities is to make sure a serious topic stays on topic. This is not a personal attack against Kaniaz, I am just trying to tell you people something (meaning he very well is a good choice to be a mod, but I was just using this as an example).

      EDIT: And I already apologize for my "mass-pile nuclear weapons post". I have contributed to the decay of this thread, and am sorry.

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      Ffx! That would be a terrible thing to happen!!! We can't let it happen!
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      Classic example of forum members co-operating with each others requests.

      Originally posted by Joseph_Stalin
      The Panic may also be caused by increased military tensions near the year 2012--reposition of forces near crucial targets, biological attacks in other countries, etc. Maybe even similiar \"Patriot Acts\" in other coutries. Maybe 2012 may bring revolution...

      -----------------------------------------

      May I remind you that this is the Philosophy room, and not Senseless Banter, and not even the lounge. You are very quick to praise Kaniaz and say that he deserves moderatorship, but one of the mod's responibilities is to make sure a serious topic stays on topic. This is not a personal attack against Kaniaz, I am just trying to tell you people something (meaning he very well is a good choice to be a mod, but I was just using this as an example).

      EDIT: And I already apologize for my \"mass-pile nuclear weapons post\". I have contributed to the decay of this thread, and am sorry.
      Originally posted by Finde
      Ffx! That would be a terrible thing to happen!!! We can't let it happen!
      But yeah; even though I of course welcome all forms of praise to myself (who wouldn't?) We have gone off topic...we're chronic off topicers on Dreamviews, but Philosphy has pretty much always done an excellent job at staying serious. Let's keep it that way n' stuff, I like being able to come here and marvel at the intelligent posts D:>

      Anyway, it could be the goverment step in and lean heavily on the press to make sure that they don't incite fear and/or cash in on the 2012 thing. While it defintely seems like a radical step for a goverment to take in some cases, if it was required to keep law and order and no mass revolt, then I am sure that they would do it, along with one of those mass-mailings where they mail you a leaflet explaining everything (Like they did with the Y2K thing, outlining stuff like "Nothing's going to happen" and "You can't dodge your taxes this way").

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      i think everyone has the wrong idea about 2012. i dont think its about the-end-of-the-world ... i think its more of an end of THIS world (or reality) and the ascencion or evolution into the next stage of existance, or dimension, which will be a non-physical reality. i believe the people who are ready for this (maybe spiritually aware people and such) will evolve, and the ones who are not will continue on the physical plane of existance, or the physical will no longer exist. if you read prophecies from every religion and philosphy, and DONT TAKE IT LITERALLY but more symbolically, they all lead to this

      oh by the way, i am back.
      a child's rhyme stuck in my head
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      i spent so many years in question
      to find i known this all along..

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      :| I doubt that. If you look at the world today, crime runs rampant and personally if I was to walk out into the street at night then I'd probably get kidnapped. Wars happen over nothing, and basically everything is in a right state. If on 2012 the clouds part and suddenly god gives them a gift of eternal love, they'll probably start shooting at it.

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      i think it will be more like, those ready will realise that "gods eternal gift of love" was always with them. we already have the eternal gift, we just choose to ignore it. thats what "awakening" or enlightenement is. realising there is no external god judging or loving you. the only one capable of tragedy or miracles is your self.
      a child's rhyme stuck in my head
      it said life is but a dream
      i spent so many years in question
      to find i known this all along..

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      Originally posted by Nebulae
      i think it will be more like, those ready will realise that \"gods eternal gift of love\" was always with them. we already have the eternal gift, we just choose to ignore it. thats what \"awakening\" or enlightenement is. realising there is no external god judging or loving you. the only one capable of tragedy or miracles is your self.
      Sadly, I've seen the same storyline in bad cartoons. :|

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      People who belive they will die tomorrow, who are so convinced that that will be their last day, will go into panic. There will be looting, rape, murder and anything people repressed due to laws and such. All ties will be forgotton, because there is nothing to live for the next day.
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      well, think about this. If everyone is having fun raping and stealing, what are you gonna do? sit around and let them kill you?

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      waaarrrggghhhhhhhh!!!! i don't wanna die!!!!! personally i'll just go on with life as usual, but if there was mass panic i'll barricade myself in my own home.

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      May I remind you that this is the Philosophy room, and not Senseless Banter, and not even the lounge. You are very quick to praise Kaniaz and say that he deserves moderatorship, but one of the mod's responibilities is to make sure a serious topic stays on topic. This is not a personal attack against Kaniaz, I am just trying to tell you people something (meaning he very well is a good choice to be a mod, but I was just using this as an example).

      EDIT: And I already apologize for my \"mass-pile nuclear weapons post\". I have contributed to the decay of this thread, and am sorry.
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      i think it will be a year like any other,

      and btw we're talking about the mayan calendar right?

      think about this: were the maya people almighty? were they "gods"?

      i dont think so

      and thats why the year 2012 will be like any other, but i know now already there will be some fools among the worlds population who will (indeed) believe this so much they will go mad.

      and i think why so many people "believe" in it, is because it is just a few years away...


      from exit mundi:
      "And what about that awesome phenomenon of the Sun sitting in the heart of the Tree of Life*? Well, that happened before. The Sun passes the Tree every 25,800 years. That's a lot of years, but since the Earth exists for an astonishing 4,5 billion years, the Earth survived the &#96;divine event' more than 150,000 times already! "

      *: where the galactic equinox and the exact middle of the Milky Way crossed was called (by mayan people)&#96;the Sacred Tree'.

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      2012 was never about the apocalypse, where does that come from? 2012 is the end/beginning of the Maya long-term calendar, based on the movement of the stars. There is a movement to change our Gregorian calendar to a 13 Moon calendar, one of many that the Mayas used. It is believed this will change our equating of time as money to a more natural time as art. The League of Nations tried to change it in 1933, but the Vatican wouldn't allow it.

      Even if this prophecy is correct, it does not mean that the world will end on Dec 21, 2012. It would be a gradual change up to that date where then we would be on a natural time with the universe rather than a mechanical, man-made time.

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