Thread: What's your ideas about nothingness...

Nothing would be the absence of everything... Good luck.

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Originally Posted by User

What's your ideas about nothingness...

Nothing.

It does not exist. That is what it is. It is not. Really, it is. It cannot be. That is how it is.

Originally Posted by User

but how can you expereince nothing?

To be conscious is to be aware of existence.
To be unconscious would prevent you from experiencing anything at all.

You can't.

The best way to even try wondering what it is like, is to have surgery and get put to sleep while you are in surgery. From the moment you are injected to the moment you wake up, so hours and hours..you expierience nothing, not even black. It's as if not even 1 second has passed on by. But total nothingness? try imagining before you were born, it's impossible.

Originally Posted by User

for example, can you experience it? Is dying just leaving conciousness behind or is it entering a new level of conciousness. People claim to expereince nothingness on drugs, but how can you expereince nothing? Expand please.

Nothingness, or "void" simply means emptiness or formlessness. It is devoid of form - which is the term given to objects of perception and the mind. It is like a void where all that is left in awareness, is paradoxically one's awareness. Conditions of time and space are usually not present. You can "experience it" as a state of awareness. If you supposedly can with drugs I'm not surprised.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Nothing.

It does not exist. That is what it is. It is not. Really, it is. It cannot be. That is how it is.

Nothingness is not necessarily non-existence. That often starts a big debate. This is because the formless reality is sometimes called the "unmanifest", which is beyond "is" or "is not", where "is-ness" is an actual manifestation in form, and where unmanifestation is infinite potentiality. It's in the word: no-thing-ness. No thing. Not necessarily all Reality is a thing.

nothing can be everything. nothing is everything. everything is nothing.

oh, and nothing is not what it is.

Originally Posted by rottingteeth

oh, and nothing is not what it is.

Which means that everything is what it is, even nothing.

Nothing isn't.

Originally Posted by Licity

Nothing isn't.

Lmfao.

You could experience nothing, if nothing existed, but your conciousness.

Originally Posted by rottingteeth

nothing can be everything. nothing is everything. everything is nothing.

oh, and nothing is not what it is.

It is what everything is not.

Nothing is not what everything is and everything is while nothing is not.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

The best way to even try wondering what it is like, is to have surgery and get put to sleep while you are in surgery. From the moment you are injected to the moment you wake up, so hours and hours..you expierience nothing, not even black. It's as if not even 1 second has passed on by. But total nothingness? try imagining before you were born, it's impossible.

This sums it up perfectly. I've had surgery and it's weird. Totally different to normal sleep during which your brain is still keeping track of time. You simply wake up from 'nowhere'.

No offense or anything but I actually find it really strange that so many humans can't conceive the notion of 'nothingness', furthermore of there being nothing after death, considering we have all experienced 'nothing' before we were born. The 'you' only exists as long as it is supported by a functioning brain. As soon as the brain stops functioning so does consciousness. It's obvious. The fact is we can actually experience 'nothingness' whilst alive during deep sleep, operations, comas, being knocked unconscious etc. I just don't get why people try to convince themselves that there's going to magically be 'something' even if their brain is blown up by a bomb. One might as well ask "Are tables in heaven?"

I just find the concept of nothingness quite beautiful and poetic and it truly mystifies me that so often people can't imagine it much less accept it

Nothingness can't be experienced.

You can't feel the nothing, you are only certain that you don't remember being conscious....

Every night before we are aware of our dreams we are in this "nothingness" as you describe it.. I'd call it unconscious, not nothingness.. Nothing implies everything is gone.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

Nothingness can't be experienced.

You can't feel the nothing, you are only certain that you don't remember being conscious....

Every night before we are aware of our dreams we are in this "nothingness" as you describe it.. I'd call it unconscious, not nothingness.. Nothing implies everything is gone.

Yes, it's impossible to expierience, but the best way to even understand just alittle is what i said.

This is for anyone....knowing once you die there would be nothingness, would you die for someone you don't even know? like a kid. He's about to die but the last second you die for him/her preventing their death, they get to live, while you are perma gone forever. People call you a hero, but you are perma gone and there is no bringing you back, ever! you fucked your own life, to save someone else from having to die and never be alive, again. Is that even fair? people are all "no don't kill yourself", or "no don't die" except saving someone else. Instead of them paying the ultimate price, you have to....

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

Yes, it's impossible to expierience, but the best way to even understand just alittle is what i said.

This is for anyone....knowing once you die there would be nothingness, would you die for someone you don't even know? like a kid. He's about to die but the last second you die for him/her preventing their death, they get to live, while you are perma gone forever. People call you a hero, but you are perma gone and there is no bringing you back, ever! you fucked your own life, to save someone else from having to die and never be alive, again. Is that even fair? people are all "no don't kill yourself", or "no don't die" except saving someone else. Instead of them paying the ultimate price, you have to....

You are right that you can't experience nothing, it would be quite a conundrum.

Originally Posted by DeathCell

You are right that you can't experience nothing, it would be quite a conundrum.

You can experience nothingness as "the void", but you can't experience non-existence.

the only thing you can't experience, is non-experience

Originally Posted by User

for example, can you experience it?

no

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Originally Posted by rottingteeth

the only thing you can't experience, is non-experience

What is surprising is that you can experience experience.

Here is something that i can't really get sort of, even though i sometimes use it.

"Do you remember anything before you were born?"

I don't remember anything before i was 4 years old. My first ever memory was i was 4 years old, looking into a mirror and saying "that is me", before that nothing...


Also, people say they expierienced a 2nd life, or a previous life from meditating, but people always say it was DC's. If there was a 2nd life, then how else do you prove it without mentioning DC's? Seems to run into the same crossroad. You meditate, expierience something that seems like a 2nd life, go research it, it was true and you never knew about it before, then someone comes along and thinks they have a simple answer to explain it...dream character.


I wonder if perhaps before you were born to the point you have your first memory is just amnesia. because we aren't supposed to know of previous lives or we wont learn anything from this life having the answers given to us.

Just something i'm thinking about ATM.