I was thinking about metaphysics whilst drifting off to sleep the other night when I suddenly had a thought that, at the time, seemed like a bit of a revelation. |
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I was thinking about metaphysics whilst drifting off to sleep the other night when I suddenly had a thought that, at the time, seemed like a bit of a revelation. |
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I probably wouldn't act all that different if I discovered this to be true. |
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If the universe is the grand totally of all things, and you acknowledge that you are but a part of that whole, then you cannot be the whole observing itself. Something about "consciousness is the universe observing itself" has always seemed very paradoxical to me, but I'm digressing from the point of the thread... |
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Reminds me of I Am the Walrus. "I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together." Which was written on LSD, no less. |
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Very good! |
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Last edited by Dannon Oneironaut; 07-03-2010 at 05:50 AM.
Xei this seems like a bit of a contradiction. In what way does describing and/or asking about how something would be experienced and how would the world would be, have nothing to do with a metaphysical truth? I have a response for the thread but I wouldn't want it to be inappropriate for what you are asking. |
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Last edited by really; 06-22-2010 at 04:31 PM.
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Because I'm just talking about human behaviour if we assumed it were true. It's a thought experiment. |
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Hmm.. I still don't get it and it doesn't seem that way, looking at how you've phrased your questions. So you're not talking about what it would be like in an individual's experience, but what a human being would actually do? I'd still argue that is much dependent on their inner experience, I.e. their way of being. You can't really say much about what they do, otherwise. |
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If everyone had the realization.. There are a number of possibilities. I'd think that the more widespread positive state of mind would mean living in a world where some people weren't going out of their way to succeed at the expense of others. Perhaps no wars. It's still likely thought that there may be others who'd rationalize their desires anyways by seeing self inflicted harm as a potentially good thing. No pain, no gain. If anything there should at least be some observable reduction in hostile actions all over the globe, as in fewer homocides, fewer cases of domestic abuse, and so on. |
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Last edited by Invader; 06-24-2010 at 07:28 AM.
Nice, very interesting way of putting it. I've heard of human consciousness explained as "the universe observing itself" before, but never really understood where it came from. Your definition of the actual term 'universe' really puts that in perspective. I guess I just got accustomed to the word without ever really forming a proper conceptual definition of it. |
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"A physicist is an atom's way of knowing about atoms." -- George Wald. |
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This reminds me very much of my personal viewpoints in some respects. If you treat the Universe as one idea, then all action you do upon another would either benefit or burden the Universe (a part of you). The Golden Rule in a different light, so to speak. Positive action toward preserving the Universe would be the ideal action, wouldn't it? |
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Your disclaimer doesn't change the fact that this is really what it is all about. In a way you stumbled upon a metaphysical truth, but it was hardly a stumble since I'm sure you've heard it before; it may just not have 'clicked' for you personally until that moment. |
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The ability to happily respond to any adversity is the divine.
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This is, loosely, a philosophy that I already subscribe to (as hinted by my custom user title). I'm not sure of how much truth there is to the metaphysical part of it, but - at least in practice - I tend to stay within the guidelines of the overall idea, when it comes to my interactions with other people. |
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This is more or less what I believe, and it's the only real justification for morality that I can think of. Essentially it implies something like the golden rule, that you should treat others as you would like to be treated, because, at some level, you will/have been/are being treated that way. |
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There are more ways of putting the liars paradox than one can shake a stick at, and some so apparently beautiful as to make a drunken man cry, however, it is still errant thinking. |
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Last edited by Philosopher8659; 07-10-2010 at 03:32 AM.
Thoughts entertaining thoughts. |
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Last edited by Cyclic13; 07-11-2010 at 05:35 PM.
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"These paradoxical perceptions of our holonic higher mind are but finite fleeting constructs of the infinite ties that bind." -ME
Oh thanks, that's very helpful. |
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