Thread: Does religion benefit society as a whole?

"I am sorry but this has got to be the most stupidest and utterly dumbest post I've read before. Here is few from the top of my head."

Mr. Blonde, I find it funny that you say that you should not call names in posts when you are clearly calling me the "most stupidest and utterly dumbest"(Grammar anyone?) person here by implication. At least I have a good foundation in English.

"If anyone really wishes hell on another being, I would say they deserve more punishment than the person who murdered his whole family."
^This is what I said.

"So with that rationale a good person who's been doing good all his life. One day is struck with tragedy by losing his daughter to a Killer who shows no remorse. The good man then says I hope you go to hell. By saying that and with your post. This Good man deserves a "Eternity" of hell(even though you said no one deserves it. Contradicting?) while the killer doesn't? God I hope your never a Jury member for murder case. We all know who you're siding with.Good luck with supporting Serial Killers/Child Rapists because I don't do that and never will."
^This is what you said.

Nowhere in my post did I say that "a good man" (By your definition mind) deserves hell. In fact I clearly remember stating that NO ONE does. I said that this so called "good person" deserves a worse punishment just for the act of wishing that amount of torment on another being. And what does my belief in spiritual punishment have anything to do with the justice system? If I were to be on a jury for a murderer or rapist (Mind you one that I truly believe is guilty, I will not condemn a person where there is no proof), I would most certainly condone life sentences and even capital punishment. And yes, these people are deranged and deserve a lot of pain, even in my opinion. But I would never wish hell on anyone, not even my worst enemy. Not even "HITER".

Your arguments against mine just showed your ignorance and inability to read OR write.

Originally Posted by VickDannon

"I am sorry but this has got to be the most stupidest and utterly dumbest post I've read before. Here is few from the top of my head."

Mr. Blonde, I find it funny that you say that you should not call names in posts when you are clearly calling me the "most stupidest and utterly dumbest"(Grammar anyone?) person here by implication. At least I have a good foundation in English.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

but I can see why people don't want to debate with me since I called a members post here "Dumb and Stupid"(Which I take back now seeing has it was totally uncalled for and just down right childish).

If you had read my post from above you would see that I had made a mistake. Calling your post "Dumb and Stupid" was well....dumb and stupid of me. After taking a step back I realized I was wrong to call you "Stupid and Dumb". My Grammar is bad? I know that I make mistakes like every other Human being out there. I'm not perfect and I never will be but if you're going to bring up every single mistake I make and put it under scrutiny. (Spelling?) Then I think were going to have a hard time debating each other's posts.

Originally Posted by VickDannon

"If anyone really wishes hell on another being, I would say they deserve more punishment than the person who murdered his whole family."
^This is what I said.

"So with that rationale a good person who's been doing good all his life. One day is struck with tragedy by losing his daughter to a Killer who shows no remorse. The good man then says I hope you go to hell. By saying that and with your post. This Good man deserves a "Eternity" of hell(even though you said no one deserves it. Contradicting?) while the killer doesn't? God I hope your never a Jury member for murder case. We all know who you're siding with.Good luck with supporting Serial Killers/Child Rapists because I don't do that and never will."
^This is what you said.

Nowhere in my post did I say that "a good man" (By your definition mind) deserves hell. In fact I clearly remember stating that NO ONE does. I said that this so called "good person" deserves a worse punishment just for the act of wishing that amount of torment on another being. And what does my belief in spiritual punishment have anything to do with the justice system? If I were to be on a jury for a murderer or rapist (Mind you one that I truly believe is guilty, I will not condemn a person where there is no proof), I would most certainly condone life sentences and even capital punishment. And yes, these people are deranged and deserve a lot of pain, even in my opinion. But I would never wish hell on anyone, not even my worst enemy. Not even "HITER".

Your arguments against mine just showed your ignorance and inability to read OR write.

Now on to your post. You said "If anyone really wishes hell on another being". A good man (by anyone's definition) falls under the category of "Anyone". Am I mistaken with this?

Originally Posted by VickDannon

In fact I clearly remember stating that NO ONE does.

I responded with

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

This Good man deserves a "Eternity" of hell(even though you said no one deserves it. Contradicting?) while the killer doesn't?

You said no one deserves hell but at the same time said that one who wishes hell upon another deserves more punishment. I found this to be contradicting. If this was a exception then I could understand but you didn't state that unless am mistaken.

Originally Posted by VickDannon

If I were to be on a jury for a murderer or rapist (Mind you one that I truly believe is guilty, I will not condemn a person where there is no proof), I would most certainly condone life sentences and even capital punishment. And yes, these people are deranged and deserve a lot of pain, even in my opinion. But I would never wish hell on anyone, not even my worst enemy. Not even "HITER".

Then this comes down to my beliefs and yours. I believe someone like Hiter deserves hell and you believe no one does. I respect your beliefs (Though I don't agree with them I respect them) and am hoping you can do the same (not forcing you just hoping). It's been great and I hope I can debate with you some more. If I made a mistake in what I just wrote am sorry. I hope you can understand what I wrote and have no misunderstandings on my post. Thanks