Not only is the Kingdom of Heaven on earth, but Hell is merely a grave or rubbish heap: |
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So, I got talking to this liberal minded (gay) Anglican at the bar tonight, along with this other Catholic guy. We were essentially debating religion and ended up pretty much agreeing. But very interesting to me is how the first guy exactly corroborated for me something that I've suspected before: the Kingdom of Heaven does not refer not life after death. It refers to Heaven on Earth; a worldly, mortal utopia. Statements like, 'by loving your neighbour, you will enter the Kingdom of Heaven' are NOT delineating some kind of convoluted reward system for good deeds after death; it's a simple statement that by living in the correct way (for instance, by not coveting money), you will create an Earthly paradise, and peace for yourself and others. |
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Not only is the Kingdom of Heaven on earth, but Hell is merely a grave or rubbish heap: |
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Last edited by Darkmatters; 10-09-2011 at 05:47 AM.
Xei why are you acting as if this is new, news for you? Zhaylin and I have already told you this before and with regards to what Darkmatters mentioned regarding what Hell really is, we've explained this several times in these threads. :p |
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I'm pretty sure Xei was drunk yesterday as per his thread about alcoholic beverages and his behavior in chat. As for myself, I hadn't seen this info posted before. |
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I'll have to dig because I haven't been in R/S for quite some time but I'll pull it up. |
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This is interesting. But what about Paul at the 'Pearly Gates', not that I'm into all the bible stuff. It's a liitle backasswards. BTW, who cares if the guy at the bar is gay? Are gays more philosophical |
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One theory I believe is Satan was created as an Anti-God character to freighten people into adopting christianity. He is a personifactaion of evil people, things and deeds. |
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It has everything to do with exactly what you're saying here and NO, I will not try again because I do not need to. |
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> Claim you've told me this over and over |
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Last edited by Xei; 10-09-2011 at 09:58 PM.
Well that's exactly what I'm saying Xei, which is why I was saying this is not new, news to you and I agree that 2 + 2 does NOT equal 5. |
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On a related note, I don't like the idea of asking God for forgiveness. Ask he whom you've wronged for forgiveness, and the forgiveness you receive will satisfy your own desire for forgiveness, and would most likely settle any "God-related" forgiveness issues, would it not? |
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Last edited by ThePreserver; 10-11-2011 at 03:04 AM.
Amen to that Brotha!! |
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I'm in heaven when i feel good, i'm in hell when i'm depressed. |
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"I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. |
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Yes - I always took that to mean that you only reach heaven on earth by emulating Jesus - doing as he does. Try to live a life of peace and love. |
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If you admit taking the Bible as compeltely symbolic sense then everything is clear and unveiled. It is all about us making this world heaven or hell, with our actions against other people. |
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Jujutsu is the gentle art. It's the art where a small man is going to prove to you, no matter how strong you are, no matter how mad you get, that you're going to have to accept defeat. That's what jujutsu is.
The Gospel according to John is just one of over a dozen Gospels out there. Why do we always say John is right, but everyone else is wrong? |
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Yeah I heard that too, not sure if I heard it from the Gospel of Judas or not. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I've pondered that before that when we die we become what we imagine to be true. My Grandfather was an athiest, so I guess he's in some kind of nothing before nothing after thing. |
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He'd still see a being of light, he just wouldn't think it's Jesus, necessarily. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
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