Thread: Wicca Anyone

I am wiccan i follow mainly solitary practices but with a group of people if you can understand that i would like to meet real actual wiccan on this site who would be interested in speaking if so send me a message thank you and im new here so so mote it be peace peace ~Xoffen

It seems to me (and I could be totally wrong) that a lot of people decide to be Wiccan for much the same reasons they decide to be emo, goth, or any number of other social sub-categories - that is, because they want to feel non-conformist and original and... well, magical.

This kind of disturbs me, like people are just playing pretend because they think it sounds cool.

Does anyone else get this vibe?

lol it doesnt just sound cool dude it is and real

I chose Wicca because it's morals and ideas make more sense to me than mainstream religions

yes its morals are somewhat close to christianity and i love karma its all together a good religion

Originally Posted by thegnome54

It seems to me (and I could be totally wrong) that a lot of people decide to be Wiccan for much the same reasons they decide to be emo, goth, or any number of other social sub-categories - that is, because they want to feel non-conformist and original and... well, magical.

This kind of disturbs me, like people are just playing pretend because they think it sounds cool.

Does anyone else get this vibe?

Yes i do, obviously 100% of Wiccans/Pagans are going to be doing ti because it;s a fad and all that, and you look mysterious and cool and such. But one of my closest friends went through a Pagan ,Wiccan phase for like two years. She still stays she is now but seriously she never does anything apart from probably hang out and get wasted, lol.

It just to make the vampire and wizard love novels and such she reads a little more important and probably makes her feel cool or something. There are two other girls who are in a similar position.


Unlike other's in this thread i actually find Paganism, especially Wicca, less realistic then main stream religions. You must understand i find all religion and spirituality that suggests we are anything more then sentient creatures unrealistic, but i find the ability to use any kind of magic, telekinesis for example, creation of fire, being one with nature spirits etc. Even more unbelievable then a sole creator of everything who is kind yet cruel, all knowing yet out dated etc.

I think one key example was someone i knew who seemed to almost worship a goddess Epona, yes you guessed it, the God of horses! HORSES!:

1) YOU ARE NOT A HORSE!

2) A god whose only power is over horses... wow..... You know me may as well worship say Thomas Edison!! The giver of long lasting light!

3) Why worship such a ridiculous being, how could a god of horses effect you. Good quality manure i suppose, maybe telling you betting results down at the track.

I'll stop ranting, i just find Paganism and Wicca even more frustrating in some aspects then main stream religions. Pagans/Wiccans are much nicer people, but i feel they are even more deluded

But that's just my opinion, please do not be offended, i don't want that.

Originally Posted by cuddleyperson

Yes i do, obviously 100% of Wiccans/Pagans are going to be doing ti because it;s a fad and all that, and you look mysterious and cool and such. But one of my closest friends went through a Pagan ,Wiccan phase for like two years. She still stays she is now but seriously she never does anything apart from probably hang out and get wasted, lol.

It just to make the vampire and wizard love novels and such she reads a little more important and probably makes her feel cool or something. There are two other girls who are in a similar position.


Unlike other's in this thread i actually find Paganism, especially Wicca, less realistic then main stream religions. You must understand i find all religion and spirituality that suggests we are anything more then sentient creatures unrealistic, but i find the ability to use any kind of magic, telekinesis for example, creation of fire, being one with nature spirits etc. Even more unbelievable then a sole creator of everything who is kind yet cruel, all knowing yet out dated etc.

I think one key example was someone i knew who seemed to almost worship a goddess Epona, yes you guessed it, the God of horses! HORSES!:

1) YOU ARE NOT A HORSE!

2) A god whose only power is over horses... wow..... You know me may as well worship say Thomas Edison!! The giver of long lasting light!

3) Why worship such a ridiculous being, how could a god of horses effect you. Good quality manure i suppose, maybe telling you betting results down at the track.

I'll stop ranting, i just find Paganism and Wicca even more frustrating in some aspects then main stream religions. Pagans/Wiccans are much nicer people, but i feel they are even more deluded

But that's just my opinion, please do not be offended, i don't want that.

i understand what you are saying myself i believe a mix of some christian ideas and pagan beliefs its really not that complicated maybe if you understood it better you would see pick up wiccan for dummies or something like that there is a big difference between wiccan and pagan since pagan is basically anything that deals with more than one god wiccan can be more about nature peace harmony with ones self and the world not drinking up a storm doing drugs and worshipping half man half horses or what eve. and as far as a fad goes it is one long a** fad because its been around longer than jesus buddy

Originally Posted by Xoffen

and i love karma

This is exactly what I'm talking about. It makes it seem like you just think it's a neat idea, and don't actually think that that's the way the world really works.

Isn't that what ALL theïsts say when you criticize them? "You cannot understand"
My mom is Wiccan but she's also (like most people in that sect) a hypocrite.
She's all "peace love and harmony" when with her friends, but when no one of the sect is around she's one of the meanest, manipulative and self-centered humans of the northern hemisphere.

Why can't people be nice to others and nature WITHOUT joining the sect loonies or a mayor religion?

I try to be a moral person but I will NEVER bow for any god or deity (not even nature). Telekinesis and stuff like that has nothing to with religion. It's science.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

This is exactly what I'm talking about. It makes it seem like you just think it's a neat idea, and don't actually think that that's the way the world really works.

Mmmm. There are a good number of faiths that I admire because they have some truly beautiful ideas, but ultimately it doesn't incline me any more towards believing in them just for that, I don't think they explain the way the world really works.

You don't need religion for peace and harmony, surely?

Exactly.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

You don't need religion for peace and harmony, surely?

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Telekinesis... It's science.

Haha, what?

I kind of see what you're saying, but then wouldn't every religion be guilty of this? I mean "souls" should be science... so should emotions, morality... everything, really.

Once we can explain it, it becomes science?

Yep, everytime someone discoveres something he is considered a heretic by the people; until he can show them proof. Then he becomes a hero. Tss.

http://jamesaconrad.com/

This guy is no lunatic. Look beyond sci-fi bullshit and see the truth...
I think it should be possible, I mean, why not?? The brain is a pretty powerful tool, I mean look at LD's and how detailed they can be...
And it's not because you can't prove something (yet) that it isn't real.

Oh, one more thing - this scientist is a sceptic himself...so don't accuse him of chasing looney tunes too soon.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

This is exactly what I'm talking about. It makes it seem like you just think it's a neat idea, and don't actually think that that's the way the world really works.

karma is not an idea bud it is a fact ive seen it felt it

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Isn't that what ALL theïsts say when you criticize them? "You cannot understand".

you cant understand if you dont belive it goes over youre head its happened to everyone which is why you only use 10 percent of the brain.

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Once we can explain it, it becomes science?

it doesnt become a sience it asways was we just now see it

I don't see how "believing" in a god or bowing for nature is gonna help you to use more than 10% of your brain power.
I guess it's waaay over my head and you are probably superior. Please don't freeze me or set me on fire, I am your helpless servant...

Morality without religion.

Why do the 'true believers' usually fail at spelling or grammar on the internet? A vague attempt to make the faith seem more appealing to the kids?

Like how only Christian fundementalist evangelicals use the word "dude" seriously nowadays.

Originally Posted by Xoffen

karma is not an idea bud it is a fact ive seen it felt it

Karma can only be true if morality is objective, which it's clearly not, otherwise psychopaths wouldn't exist, would they?

Originally Posted by Xoffen

you cant understand if you dont belive it goes over youre head its happened to everyone which is why you only use 10 percent of the brain.

I'm going to get gray hair at sixteen, I freaking swear.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

I don't see how "believing" in a god or bowing for nature is gonna help you to use more than 10% of your brain power.
I guess it's waaay over my head and you are probably superior. Please don't freeze me or set me on fire, I am your helpless servant...

Morality without religion.

lol wow im sorry didnt realize who i was talking too lol if i wanted an argument i would have posted a new thread lets argue no instead i posted it in wicca anyone for believers not for people who dont know anything about it. it has nothing to do with powers of freezing or setting on fire ya charmed freak well it mostly doesnt it mostly deals on life job money happiness friendships etc who bows for nature? and i didnt say believe in a god just a theory that makes sense and feels right once your open to the actual thing and instead of past random guessed ideas of what they dont understand is. but it is a way to hide i guess hmmm

Originally Posted by Siиdяed

Why do the 'believers' usually fail at spelling or grammar on the internet? seriously nowadays.

dude it isnt just me who who doesnt use correct grammer or speling on the internet maybe i just dont give a rats a$$ if i spell this right or dont put a period everywhere i got better things to do dude seriously nowadays

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

I think it should be possible, I mean, why not?? The brain is a pretty powerful tool, I mean look at LD's and how detailed they can be...

"What the hell do you mean, you can't use my calculator to pull my car out of this ditch? Officer, look - it can calculate square roots to twelve decimal places!"

I know it has nothing to do with "powers"
I was joking. Wiccans have no sense of humor.

Originally Posted by thegnome54

Karma can only be true if morality is objective, which it's clearly not, otherwise psychopaths wouldn't exist, would they?




I'm going to get gray hair at sixteen, I freaking swear.

lol everything has a moral standard unless it is truely evil say so in bible if you think about it. whose to say pschopaths have no form of moarality.


and with the whole you subject it is a form of english not meaning you personally it is a you meaning everyone in general reread it your self. and thank you for explaining the problem for everyone 16

"You cannot understand!"

Originally Posted by thegnome54

"What the hell do you mean, you can't use my calculator to pull my car out of this ditch? Officer, look - it can calculate square roots to twelve decimal places!"

Originally Posted by Xoffen

lol everything has a moral standard unless it is truely evil say so in bible if you think about it. whose to say pschopaths have no form of moarality.

Do rocks have moral standards?

Originally Posted by Xoffen

and with the whole you subject it is a form of english not meaning you personally it is a you meaning everyone in general reread it your self. and thank you for explaining the problem for everyone 16

Humans do not use "10%" of their brain. This is an inane little urban myth. I was frustrated at your grossly incorrect statement, not a perceived insult.

Also, if you're attempting to discredit me on account of my age... I will be attending an ivy league university next fall, so stfu please

I hate ageism.