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      I have a strong sense that... Im that, you are that,all this is that and thats all there is
      ..Im god..you are god..my cat is god.. the whole is god..the whole is actually one thing..separation is just an ilusion....I believe we are here separated just for a while..") dont know how to say..all this doesnt even make sense.. Im talking with a box...")))what you think?


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      If your definition of God is "everything", then this makes sense. But to me a god would be a being with great power, capable of forging planets and shit like that, so no, I don't agree with your view.

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      Quote Originally Posted by King View Post
      If your definition of God is "everything", then this makes sense. But to me a god would be a being with great power, capable of forging planets and shit like that, so no, I don't agree with your view.
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      ") is god standing in your image?just kidding..")

      there are so many perceptions of god..of our world that probably there are as many worlds, as there are creatures..'")its a marvel that people manage to understand each other sometimes..")

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      Ah yes that is quite a common interpretation of 'god'. God being 'everything' in a way.

      I think it is partially right. I just don't call that 'everything' god, I call it nature/physics/ect. However because you aren't filled with dogma and try to force up your opinion to other people, I totally respect your beliefs.
      “What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume

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      yes, that is the omnipresent God, consciouss and living! seperation is an illusion. you should look into the I AM presence, or the christ consciousness

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      thats nice")


      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Ah yes that is quite a common interpretation of 'god'. God being 'everything' in a way.

      I think it is partially right. I just don't call that 'everything' god, I call it nature/physics/ect. However because you aren't filled with dogma and try to force up your opinion to other people, I totally respect your beliefs.
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      yeah..its all about the aspect.. gues thats why there are so many misunderstandings between people.words cant really express, they can only try to describe..'&#39

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      That's what I believe, God is everything and everything is God. God is just energy that lies in everithing that is existing. Yeah.....

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      Quote Originally Posted by ugne View Post
      I have a strong sense that... Im that, you are that,all this is that and thats all there is
      ..Im god..you are god..my cat is god.. the whole is god..the whole is actually one thing..separation is just an ilusion....I believe we are here separated just for a while..") dont know how to say..all this doesnt even make sense.. Im talking with a box...")))what you think?
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      This makes sense, its just hard to explain because it is an experience that is happening. Separation is an illusion, indeed, and it is a mental thing. There can be no absolute separation because then nothing would relate to each other. Once you realize within yourself that separation is only relative to the perspective one has, it frees you in a way.

      I think it is partially right. I just don't call that 'everything' god, I call it nature/physics/ect. [/b]
      This brings up the issue of naming. There should be reservations calling it just about anything.

      God - because of the religious dogma attached
      Nature or Physics - because they only deal with certain aspects (they are from a limited, fixed perspective)

      The best name (giving it one only for the sake of communication) would be one devoid of as many associations it has with limited perspectives (be it historical, religious, scientific, etc.). That is why I suggest to refer to it as the Infinite. But to each their own.
      ars sine scientia nihil

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      Quote Originally Posted by ugne View Post
      ") is god standing in your image?just kidding..")[/b]
      It is the Greek god of war, Ares (known as Mars in the Romans' ancient religion, which was basicly directly coped from the Greeks&#39.

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      Quote Originally Posted by syzygy View Post
      This brings up the issue of naming. There should be reservations calling it just about anything.

      God - because of the religious dogma attached
      Nature or Physics - because they only deal with certain aspects (they are from a limited, fixed perspective)

      The best name (giving it one only for the sake of communication) would be one devoid of as many associations it has with limited perspectives (be it historical, religious, scientific, etc.). That is why I suggest to refer to it as the Infinite. But to each their own.
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      The laws of the universe and beyond are about everything (like the M-theory and such), they aren't fixed. It too is infinity. Pure 'science', something we can never reach perhaps, since we are limited by ourselves, is infinite. Not like Christians/religious people can reach their own infinity, just try to grasp it, try to grasp their god. Science is as infinite as religion. Science just happens to be a bit, quite a bit, more consistent then religion.

      Only 'god' in the sense of lard-ass in the sky is completely hilarious.
      “What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume

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      I tihnk this relates to the Chinese idea of energies
      and Chi
      the life force tht flows through all of us, the life force tht flows through everything
      without the word God
      tis this idea that everything is jus one, part of a mass of energy, energy tht they beleive we can tap into
      my itnerpretation fo waht your saying could be wrong
      but like Neruo sed, its good to see there are people out ther with different innovative ideas that they ctually beeleive, they dont jus beleive what theyve been toaght to beleive
      *thumbs up*
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      yet he never respects my beliefs, let alone even read what I have to say

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      yet he never respects my beliefs, let alone even read what I have to say
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      Who enver respects your beliefs?
      me or the topic starter
      Imran
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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      Who enver respects your beliefs?
      me or the topic starter
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      It was me that never showed much respect for her beliefs, because she is a I-just-know Christian (like just about all). What I like about the topic starters viewpoint is that it has way less absolutistic self-proclaimed 'certainties'. She is just trowing out some ideas, some hypothesis. All I hear from juroara is 'blablaJesusblablaGodBlablamythsblablaBibleblablaOh-I-Saw-A-magical-Unicorn-So-They-Existblabla.
      “What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume

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      neruo you just have something against me

      all I can say is what I believe, and explain why I believe that. that is not any different than any other person here, neither am I trying to force my beliefs on anyone else. you seem to hold only one translation of the bible, and refuse to acknowledge there is not one translation - a single verse has been understood in soo many different ways by christians. some see a verse as literal and some see the same verse as metaphorical. which christian is holding the accurate understanding of their bible???

      especially the verse about blasphemizing the holy spirit. since you like to quote that one a lot, but then you dont even want to hear how other christians intrepret that verse. I'm in a lose-lose situation with you. If I hold the same understandings of those verses you will just call me an idiot for just believing without questioning. But if I question, search, and come to a DIFFERENT conclusion - you still insult me for suddenly not believing what you think a christian is supposed to believe.

      youve argued against two of my posts while at the same time, admitting, in both occassions, that you didnt even READ my posts...?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      It was me that never showed much respect for her beliefs, because she is a I-just-know Christian (like just about all). What I like about the topic starters viewpoint is that it has way less absolutistic self-proclaimed 'certainties'. She is just trowing out some ideas, some hypothesis. All I hear from juroara is 'blablaJesusblablaGodBlablamythsblablaBibleblablaOh-I-Saw-A-magical-Unicorn-So-They-Existblabla.
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      Jesus was a wise guy, anyway.. and has nothing common with nowadays christianity..he found his meaning of life and theres no why, we should not respect him

      respect to everyone, yeah!")

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