Atheist Vs. Christian Showdown

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-10-2007 01:29 AM

Thats right I would like you to go out and find anything that supports christianity (articles, videos), Feel free to point me to other threads that christians have posted here with any proof.

1. http://www.100prophecies.org/ Atheist explanation: all I got so far is some of it speaks of the old testament prodicting stuff in the new testament.

2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yq1kLsJ8zE8 Explanation: Yes I can think of stuff that doesn't exist, plenty of stuff, even if it was .001% of a chance of live existing on a planet abd it did we would imeadietly be born on that planet because it's were life has the conditions to strive, there are probably billions of planets out there, the big bang is NOT an explotion, evolution has already been proven I'll post the video later, it happens because of survival of the fittest, who will live on to produce, this guy refures to man made objects alot, look for the game of life online, I don't know where it is posted proves patterns can be formed out of randomness, lustful acts (I don't know why gods against pleasure)

3. coming soon

Ok atheists can go out and find any evidence that supports them as well

1. http://www.rationalresponders.com/the_nake...eligion_2_hours (I praise any christian who sits through the whole thing.)

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3. coming soon

ps. I'd like as little emotion to be convaid as possible please follow that rule as best as you can

I will post up every single video and article you give me, I will copy and paste your explanations.

**Jeremysr** · 03-10-2007 01:46 AM

I've never actually done this myself, but, try learning about prophecies in the Bible and how they are proved to have happened. There's supposed to be lots and lots of prophecies that have been proved to be true, specific (not vague) prophecies. Well I'll go find a site on Google about this since that's what you asked for

Random site -> http://www.100prophecies.org/

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-10-2007 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremysr

I've never actually done this myself, but, try learning about prophecies in the Bible and how they are proved to have happened. There's supposed to be lots and lots of prophecies that have been proved to be true, specific (not vague) prophecies. Well I'll go find a site on Google about this since that's what you asked for

Random site -> http://www.100prophecies.org/
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Thank you, I'll look into it.

**ExoByte** · 03-10-2007 01:50 AM

Actually, LDG. We should try to refute it, as its not really evidence if it can be explained otherwise.

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-10-2007 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Actually, LDG. We should try to refute it, as its not really evidence if it can be explained otherwise.
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yeah your probably right, I think I'll make this into a kind of defend atheism thread

Actualy I might turn it into an atheist VS. Christian show down, were we refute eachother and I keep a neat record of it.

**Jeremysr** · 03-10-2007 02:12 AM

Oh, here's a video about proving God: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yq1kLsJ8zE8

He also has loooots of other videos, some of them also about evidence of God and the Bible.

**Elixer** · 03-10-2007 02:32 AM

LDG, I'll probably not be participating in this, simply because I do not care to, but are you Atheist, or what? I'm just asking because some of your posts seem to confuse me a little...

Just wondering, I love researching various people's religious preferences, and standpoints...

**metcalfracing** · 03-10-2007 02:34 AM

Plz... stop making more of these threads! We have WAY too many already... I'm getting carpal tunnel!

**Moonbeam** · 03-10-2007 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremysr

Oh, here's a video about proving God: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yq1kLsJ8zE8

He also has loooots of other videos, some of them also about evidence of God and the Bible.
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Lol, what a psycho! He's Manson-like in his scary intensity! I watched a little...OK, here's some thing that people thought of that don't exist:

Ghosts, Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, Angels, ESP, Satan, Thor, Zeus, ...um, God, etc. That's is the most pitiful example of proof of God I've ever seen. WEll not really but it's pretty funny. For about 30 seconds.

Hey metcalf we posted at the same time again! WE're still waiting for your proof that you PROMISED us in another thread!

**metcalfracing** · 03-10-2007 02:38 AM

My "offical stance" is, I'm not in this thread. I can't handle all the excess stress. Its ruining my recall.

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-10-2007 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by metcalfracing

My "offical stance" is, I'm not in this thread. I can't handle all the excess stress. Its ruining my recall.

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No problem, but you can always stop by.

**metcalfracing** · 03-10-2007 02:42 AM

I will try... if my side starts losing horribly

**Jeremysr** · 03-10-2007 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Lol, what a psycho! He's Manson-like in his scary intensity! I watched a little...OK, here's some thing that people thought of that don't exist:

Ghosts, Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, Angels, ESP, Satan, Thor, Zeus, ...um, God, etc. That's is the most pitiful example of proof of God I've ever seen. WEll not really but it's pretty funny. For about 30 seconds.

Hey metcalf we posted at the same time again! WE're still waiting for your proof that you PROMISED us in another thread!
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All your examples won't work. I'm guessing you only watched the first little bit of the video. He said you can't have a reference to it, and humans need to observe things to create things.

Ghosts: idea was from angels (spirits)
Loch Ness Monster: dinosaurs...
Bigfoot: humans and apes
Angels: this one's from God if he exists (which is what it's trying to prove, so you can't really use examples like this)
ESP: not sure what you mean, if it's mind reading, well, it could be from God knowing your thoughts
Satan: from God (or opposite of angels)
Thor & Zeus: we could make other gods up after being able to imagine God

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-10-2007 02:52 AM

Originally Posted by Jeremysr

Thor & Zeus: we could make other gods up after being able to imagine God
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Well I could make other gods up after imagening Zeus and Thor.

I watched the whole thing and refuted everything I seen.

**Moonbeam** · 03-10-2007 02:57 AM

Originally Posted by metcalfracing

My "offical stance" is, I'm not in this thread. I can't handle all the excess stress. Its ruining my recall.

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Yea me too; but it wasn't going so well anyway...

**ExoByte** · 03-10-2007 03:11 AM

LDG:

Click <---Can't believe you forgot about this. The ultimate source for disproving God. Makes Richard Dawkins look like a retard

When looking at this site... don't just skim it. Read all 50 chapters, read the proofs, and watch the videos.

**LucidDreamGod** · 03-10-2007 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by ExoByte

LDG:

Click <---Can't believe you forgot about this. The ultimate source for disproving God. Makes Richard Dawkins look like a retard

When looking at this site... don't just skim it. Read all 50 chapters, read the proofs, and watch the videos.
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Yeah, I will put it up.

**Moonbeam** · 03-10-2007 05:12 AM

Originally Posted by ExoByte

LDG:

Click <---Can't believe you forgot about this. The ultimate source for disproving God. Makes Richard Dawkins look like a retard

When looking at this site... don't just skim it. Read all 50 chapters, read the proofs, and watch the videos.
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Richard Dawkins is not a retard. I would rather read science than a bunch of biblical bullshit. I get your point tho; too tedious for me, but a theist could benefit greatly.

**ExoByte** · 03-10-2007 05:18 AM

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

Richard Dawkins is not a retard. I would rather read science than a bunch of biblical bullshit. I get your point tho; too tedious for me, but a theist could benefit greatly.
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I didn't say he was.(Hence the

face) Richard Dawkins is a very smart man, I was just comparing. That site is perfect because it uses simple, every day things to prove that God cannot exist, prayer is an illusion and that religion is a bunch of bull, all written so that you'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand.

Why Won't God Heal Amputees gives the most amazing and simplest argument, that no one can counter without varying responses of "Just 'cause" or "God has a reason." No one can support their argument against it, which makes it so great.

**Moonbeam** · 03-10-2007 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by ExoByte

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it uses simple, every day things to prove that God cannot exist, prayer is an illusion and that religion is a bunch of bull, all written so that you'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand.
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Unfortunately this capability is beyond most theists.

**ExoByte** · 03-10-2007 05:28 AM

Haha true, as sad as it is.

But then you'd then expect them to understand dear old Richard?

**Moonbeam** · 03-10-2007 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by ExoByte

Haha true, as sad as it is.

But then you'd then expect them to understand dear old Richard?

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No I guess not; got to use language they understand. Or not, as the case may be.

**joey11223** · 03-11-2007 03:58 AM

I'm atheist and i don't believe in God because i have seen so many programmes about evolution now and about how certain chemical reactions can, even if its a 1/100000 fluke can create life.

I also stand by the quote " Man made God in his image", i just think that, especially in the past, people were very afriad of all the unknowns in the world, death, disease, natural disasters, lights in the sky(stars), the blazing sun etc. These things were all powerful to them and something/someone of great power had to have made them. Now adays we can explain alot of the things that used to be acts of God and so i think that, very slowly, Christians arguements are losing steam. I assume we as a race will grow out of religion, it may take thousands of years but i think we will when there are almost no questions left that we cannot answer.

**Jeremysr** · 03-11-2007 05:14 AM

ExoByte, Moonbeam -- I can understand it and see what an atheist thinks when they read that. And I will try to read all of that site eventually. I'm pretty sure it'll only make me more sure of what I know. (And I've already seen the videos on YouTube.)

And yeah, I know you think I'm stupid to read all that and still believe what I do.