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      The official "can't we all just get along" thread

      Think of this as the finer points of religion thread...
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      1. No atheist trolling (sorry guys, I love you, but it'll just cause unwarranted stress for the nice religious folk.)
      2. No atheist trolling
      3. Plz, for the love of god, no atheist trolling+

      This is meant to be a place for superficial religious conversation, on the border of the hell that is the rest of this forum, for those that only want to warm their hands by the fire...

      We is purely nondenominational, feel free to share your views with everyone, no matter what religion you may be.

      We'll start out slow, so everyone gets the picture...
      First topic... What religion are you, and what are the pros and cons?

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      I don't want to cause a flame war, but why does the "why can't we all just get along" thread assume atheists wouldn't want to join in and "get along"? .

      I definitely like the premise, and it should be something that is applied more during our every day lives (i.e. respect what everyone believes, and don't try to push your views on others).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Replicon View Post
      I don't want to cause a flame war, but why does the "why can't we all just get along" thread assume atheists wouldn't want to join in and "get along"? .

      I definitely like the premise, and it should be something that is applied more during our every day lives (i.e. respect what everyone believes, and don't try to push your views on others).
      I'm not athiest but i agree. Anyone should be welcomed aslong as they keep an open mind and don't start anything, or attempt to.

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      Quote Originally Posted by metcalfracing View Post
      1. No atheist trolling (sorry guys, I love you, but it'll just cause unwarranted stress for the nice religious folk.)
      2. No atheist trolling
      3. Plz, for the love of god, no atheist trolling+

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      Its a religious DEBATE forum.

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      Think of this as the finer points of religion thread...
      Rules
      1. No atheist trolling (sorry guys, I love you, but it'll just cause unwarranted stress for the nice religious folk.)
      2. No atheist trolling
      3. Plz, for the love of god, no atheist trolling+
      Religious people started it. Take for example christianity toturing people who don't agree with them and attacking science. Well, you have the countless acts of violence done by religion and now you want respect from the minority. Another thing is being challedged I guess if you don't want to be challedged and like to keep faith(weakest emotion ever) then just say I don't want this to be a debate.
      (i.e. respect what everyone believes, and don't try to push your views on others).
      If only it was one of the 600 commandments.

      As I say most people in religion are normal however you get people who impose their views on other. Creationism, gay marridges, africa aid crisis and religious extremism is a good example on how religion should be critized.

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      Quote Originally Posted by metcalfracing View Post
      We is purely nondenominational, feel free to share your views with everyone, no matter what religion you may be.
      I don't need a supernatural explanation to explain anything. Nobody really does, you just think that you do. Even if you is purely nondenominational.

      Why do atheists cause you "unwarranted stress?" Maybe it's not unwarranted.

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      You didnt say us agnostics couldnt troll
      *trolls at will"
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      Quote Originally Posted by imran_p View Post
      You didnt say us agnostics couldnt troll
      *trolls at will"
      That's true. *puts on troll mask* *grrrrrr* hehe

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      I am a pagan/dodecatheist

      I believe in the 12 gods of Olympus and also in the 1000s of other gods of nature and thought. The pros of the religion are that you get to sacrifice animals and then eat them (bones, fat and hide go to the god) you get to drink a lot of wine on special days and also nobody can tell you that your god doesnt exist or there is a mistake in your "Book" because you have no one book and all that you know about gods you have discovered yourself or your anscestors. You can create gods at will and also create their way of worship if some people are willing to go along with it...

      what is not good is that you never know if something you do will make the local god angry (or the followers of the local god angry) and then you have to make a sacrifice and have a feast and all that... well, if you dont get stoned to death for eating the holy apples or pissing in the river that the nymphs live or something like that.


      ok in reality I'm an atheist, but if I had a religion that's what I would follow (and I am not joking, there are several people here in Greece that follow this religion (a modern version of it) but they are a bit ridiculous - dress up like spartans and what not) I would do the real thing (sacrifices and all - maybe organize an orgy for the fertility gods )

      oh and I really hope we can all get along... I hope you are not anti-polytheists here
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      I'm a strict, materialistic, atheist. And I'd love to get along with y'all.

      Pros: Pride in feeling that I've "overcome" deep seated desires and cultural influences to see meaning in the world and an unwillingness to accept death as final, and replaced it with a duty to make my own meaning from the world and make the best of the time I have.

      Not that religion as a cultural influence is as strong as it was. And as none of my ideas are original you could just see it as me being won over by widespread arguments which owe just as much to emotion (pride) as the religion.

      Cons: I'm not feeling very meaningful or happy with the world at the moment :-D. Also being associated with trolls who haven't found any other way to express their atheism than by bashing theism .

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      Quote Originally Posted by sogart View Post
      I am a pagan/dodecatheist
      Awesome, I've learned a new word today. I love it! Dodecatheist: One who believes in twelve gods. Very cool. Wait, what thread am I in? Oh no, I was told that I wasn't invited to this party! (runs off the property to avoid arrest)
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      hmm did you infact start this thread to be a flame war?

      Its just weird that all three rules suggestes atheists troll.

      You didnt put:

      1. No Athiest Trolling
      2. No Thiest trolling
      3. Lets all be civil

      It seems you actually wanted a negative response to wrote you wrote, which you could then use to claim that Atheist always rant, however it is you that write a statement that warrants reaction.
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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      Religious people started it. Take for example christianity toturing people who don't agree with them and attacking science. Well, you have the countless acts of violence done by religion and now you want respect from the minority. Another thing is being challedged I guess if you don't want to be challedged and like to keep faith(weakest emotion ever) then just say I don't want this to be a debate.

      If only it was one of the 600 commandments.

      As I say most people in religion are normal however you get people who impose their views on other. Creationism, gay marridges, africa aid crisis and religious extremism is a good example on how religion should be critized.
      So wait; are you saying that the Spanish inquisition was trolling?

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      Because I guess I'm one of the few who can read something and interpret it properly, it didn't say atheists couldn't post it says atheists can't troll, (to be fair it should say no trolling as the 3rd or add a 4th rule) And what I think he means by no trolling is saying "Theists suck, there is no God"

      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      Well, you have the countless acts of violence done by religion and now you want respect from the minority.
      Because I see this so much I thought maybe once I'd reply something about it. I just love this excuse when people are so hypocritical about it, I mean would you like me to post all the things atheists have done throughout the years? I quite sure it will add up to so much more.

      Anyway now with the topic at hand.

      I'm a Christian

      Pros: I know where I'm going after I die (notice I use the word KNOW) God can do all things for me, I don't need to fear death, or much of anything for that matter. That's just the beginning, and that's all I'm typing for now.

      Cons: Unless something changes some of my friends are going to hell... And most people just plain don't like Christians, not that I care too much anyway. That's all I got for that.
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      Quote Originally Posted by homer2020 View Post
      Because I guess I'm one of the few who can read something and interpret it properly, it didn't say atheists couldn't post it says atheists can't troll, (to be fair it should say no trolling as the 3rd or add a 4th rule) And what I think he means by no trolling is saying "Theists suck, there is no God"
      That's some pretty condescending trolling there. Does Jesus want you acting like that? Which Commandment says, "Thou shalt be a prick to atheists."? I forgive you.

      Let me educate you so you can know what you are talking about. Metcalfracing has on many occasions here expressed that when atheists express their atheist views or try to understand why Christians believe what they believe, the atheists are trolling. With that being the case and considering the way he said he wants this to be a thread for religious conversation, there is an apparent suggestion that he does not want atheists joining the discussion in this thread. He didn't say he doesn't want trolling at all. He singled out atheists. He also discussed the way he wants the conversation to go and said, "... no matter what religion you may be." Atheism is not a religion. Thus, we perceived a request that we not join in on the religious discussion.

      Quote Originally Posted by homer2020 View Post

      I mean would you like me to post all the things atheists have done throughout the years? I quite sure it will add up to so much more.
      Yes. Let's see the comparison. I challenge you to start a thread on that and back it up with facts.

      By the way, it's interesting that Metcalf has Homer Simpson in his avatar and your screen name is Homer. Metcalf has also heavily emphasized on many occasions that he "knows" (as opposed to "strongly believes") Christianity is the truth. And there you are angrily taking up for him on something else he said. Hmmm... (Twilight Zone music playing)
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      My first part of the post was because every time I see an atheist try and interpret scripture it is usually taken way out of context. So I assume people do this with many things. And I've had the name homer2020 for many years of internetting, it's like my alias (btw that's Bender from Futurama in his DP)

      Maybe someday I could back that up in a thread, and get super-flammed for it, I'll do it in a few days, I have school projects to do first. I'd also have to determine whether Hitler was an atheist or not, so far no definite conclusion. And either way just because you say it doesn't mean it's true.
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      Quote Originally Posted by homer2020 View Post
      My first part of the post was because every time I see an atheist try and interpret scripture it is usually taken way out of context.
      The problem is, religious folks do that too, and in fact, it's a lot more dangerous when that happens, as history has shown. When people live by the the "Bible is the word of God" mantra, it's very easy for someone to say "the bible says this, and it's the word of god, therefore, god wants you to kill all <insert example here>s"

      I'd also like to see a thread backing up the claim that atheists have done serious atrocities in the name of atheism, in similar scales as religious people have. And once again, I have absolutely nothing against religion. I do, however, have something against senseless violence and murder. The fact that more people have been killed in the name of god than for any other cause is just sad, because it makes religion seem evil, when it's not, inherently.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonbeam View Post
      I don't need a supernatural explanation to explain anything. Nobody really does, you just think that you do. Even if you is purely nondenominational.

      Why do atheists cause you "unwarranted stress?" Maybe it's not unwarranted.
      You see this all goes back to the cake verses pie debate. One day a man created a pie then someone else came back and said," I don't like pie because pie isn't cake." The other man came back and said," I don't like cake because cake isn't pie." Then both men created followers to go declare the other better.

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      Nobody expects the cakeish inquisition! Our chief weapon is........

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      I hereby declare this a thread for discussing the merits of Dodecatheism.

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      Ahem... I'd just like to point out that THIS IS THE REASON WE CAN'T ALL JUST GET ALONG.

      After, setting this thread and leaving it, 16 posts out of 21 posts were trolls.

      I'd like to thank Sogart, source jedi, and homer2020 for not trolling like the vast majority of people who posted.

      I don't understand why modern forums can't be places to exchange knowledge like they the used to be.

      I never once said that atheists couldn't post here. The majority of posters took my words and twisted them into what they wanted to hear. I think the question you should all ask yourselves when reading that is, why would a theist troll his own thread?

      Edit: err... make that 17 out of 22 posts
      Last edited by metcalfracing; 06-04-2007 at 05:08 PM. Reason: oversite due to time of writing

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      I mean would you like me to post all the things atheists have done throughout the years? I quite sure it will add up to so much more.
      Yes. Let's see the comparison. I challenge you to start a thread on that and back it up with facts.
      I bet homer won't be able to write a paragraph about the things that atheist have done throughout the years. Seriously I really want to see this.

      Oh yeah, Hitler was not a atheist
      “The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will.”
      “Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”
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      18 out of 24...

      Oh and... "This forum is for any and all religious discussions and debates"
      This means that not all threads have to devolve into debates.
      Last edited by metcalfracing; 06-04-2007 at 05:44 PM.

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