Thread: Am i gonna go to hell

hey have you tried reading "The Book of Urantia?" It's bigger than most versions of the BIBle!

gothicviceroy112, what do you consider as being "blasphemous things". Do you know what the Book of Mormon really teaches? I'm not saying you don't, you may. I just want to know why Riff can't make up his own mind about what he reads. Why to open yourself up to new ideas and new teachings? Is trying to learn something about another religion really that bad?

Anyway, that's my own completely and totally biased moron opinion.:p

Originally Posted by 27

Anyway, that's my own completely and totally biased moron opinion.:p

Definitely more posts need to start ending like this.

it doesn't matter what the book of mormon teaches, technically as it isn't a book of his sect, what he is reading isn't a book of his believes. Maybe to him it counts as reading the book of a false diol and so sinning, i know you both share the same God, but your believes are still a little different in some areas.

Like latter day saints( is that right?), the ones that think Saturday is the day of rest and some other stuff. There's some at my school, they get much much much more angry in RS when God is sometimes questioned, im not sure why, i think they are genetrally more strict in their believes.

One girl in my class went mad when we did evolution in biology, she just starts shouting " NO NO thats all wrong, how can you see thats even true, that isnt true, you are all sinners!!", wow she just lost it.

I have a hard decision here.

To choose what is more retarded.... Scientology, Mormonism, or believing you got abducted by aliens. I am honestly, NOT lying here, if I say that someone believing they were abducted by aliens is more sane then the other two.

Anyhow. You aren't sinning by reading a made up book. Just be weary, it is full of shit. The Mormon religion was officially racist until 1958, it's a bad cult gone mainstream.

Come on man, is that necessary? Can you talk about anything on here without insulting someone? At least get the facts strait. What happened in 1958? Do you mean 78? Why criticize what you don't understand? What have Mormons done to you?

Originally Posted by joey11223

Made up, it is a main part of their religion. You may think it's made up but to them it's very real...Unless your one of those who thinks that Hell is not actually a real place at all, so when it is described in the Bible as a Lake of fire thats justa story. If you think that then you may as well think the same of heaven.

The hebrew word for hell is sheol which means "ground", "earth", "grave" or "garbage heap".

The greek word for hell that is used most commonly in the greek version of the bible is Gehenna which was an actual burning dump near Jerusalem.

Aside from the ruminating of some dumb fishermen there is no mention in the bible of an actual place you go to pay for your sins for all eternity. Only in the new testament is any mention to a lake of fire or eternal damnation in fire and brimstone, which as I said was written by some dumb fishermen.

Originally Posted by joey11223

it doesn't matter what the book of mormon teaches, technically as it isn't a book of his sect, what he is reading isn't a book of his believes. Maybe to him it counts as reading the book of a false diol and so sinning, i know you both share the same God, but your believes are still a little different in some areas.

Like latter day saints( is that right?), the ones that think Saturday is the day of rest and some other stuff. There's some at my school, they get much much much more angry in RS when God is sometimes questioned, im not sure why, i think they are genetrally more strict in their believes.

One girl in my class went mad when we did evolution in biology, she just starts shouting " NO NO thats all wrong, how can you see thats even true, that isnt true, you are all sinners!!", wow she just lost it.

Sorry but LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!! i wish i was there.

Heaven or Hell, the fact that so many humans can't consolidate the notion beyond the idea of "a place" shows that those same humans are not ready to think about such things just yet .

Originally Posted by Replicon

Heaven or Hell, the fact that so many humans can't consolidate the notion beyond the idea of "a place" shows that those same humans are not ready to think about such things just yet .

I think it's a state of mind. A place would be a psysical world thing that you can see, feel, and touch but we would not be what we are now, and it's all mind related so....a state of mind is what it would be IMO. Anyway who knows, maybe we really are nothing and have no future after we are dead,which would mean we are a mistake for the fact we live 1 minutes or 100+ years and that's all in the 14 billion year old universe. You know how dumb it would be for a baby to live for 1 minute and die from complications only to never exist again? wow.....

I personally believe in the left hand path, which basically means I come up with my own morals and values. In my life I basically do what I want. This doesn't mean the things I do are bad they are just what I want to do. I dont let any book or anyone tell me what I am going to do or how I am going to act in my life. The good thing about this type of religion is freedom. Someone in this religion could do good things and be a good person which is all that matters right? There is nothing considered blasphamy to me because my religion is basically is celebrating my existance.
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Come on man, is that necessary? Can you talk about anything on here without insulting someone? At least get the facts strait. What happened in 1958? Do you mean 78? Why criticize what you don't understand? What have Mormons done to you?

Knock on my door when I have a no soliciting sign!!
just kidding lol

I dont have anything against other religion's, but I definently think people spend so much time worrying about doing something "bad" or reading a book that will make them go to hell they miss out in their life. And you only have one life right?

Just something to think about,
Nekratal

Originally Posted by Nekratal

I personally believe in the left hand path, which basically means I come up with my own morals and values. In my life I basically do what I want. This doesn't mean the things I do are bad they are just what I want to do. I dont let any book or anyone tell me what I am going to do or how I am going to act in my life. The good thing about this type of religion is freedom. Someone in this religion could do good things and be a good person which is all that matters right? There is nothing considered blasphamy to me because my religion is basically is celebrating my existance.

That's the way the world should be living by. You have 1 life, do what you want to do without having to worry about death stuff which is a downer. celebrate life, not death and your place when you die, help people out who need it, or don't need it but help out anyway. You have no controll over anything except our decisions in life and how we handle them, we all have choices to do what we want, good or bad. I hope you do good because if you did bad and made someone have a hard time then shame on you....
people need to grow up and stop thinking of themselves and how it benefits them and everything is about "me, me, me".

Originally Posted by 27

Come on man, is that necessary? Can you talk about anything on here without insulting someone? At least get the facts strait. What happened in 1958? Do you mean 78? Why criticize what you don't understand? What have Mormons done to you?

They have fucked up this planet even more, than it previously was.

mormons haven;t done anything to me, i used to think they were the mole people!! oh man!!:p

but bah its just a sect of christianity isnt it, since i dont follow God at all, they are all just different views on a falicy to me, im sure most are nice people.

Oh but whoever said New Testament is silly. I thought New Testament was the one we listened to. Old testiment is the one most Christians say doesnt apply anymore, the new Testament is like the more sensible one, so if that mentions hell is a firey place you go when you die, then its true isnt it?

Marvo, care to be more specific?

As for my own view of hell, I believe it is a real place which very, very few people who have lived will go. And I don't believe there is any light or heat in hell.

To get back on topic, I don't know whether or not Riff’s religion considers reading the Book of Mormon a sin, but apparently neither does he.

People converting to mormon, often results in broken friendships, tension in the family and other shit. Also, it has devided the christians into even more different sects, which to some point is both good and bad.

The Jews never had a hell, it was added in by christians who got the concept from Hades (i think it was hades).

Originally Posted by Riff

My friend gave me a book of morman. I'm christian, ( I dont know which sect, i believe the bible and i go to a catholic church but i'm not REALLY catholic). I'm tolerant for other people religion and i like my friend, like LIke her like her. But am i going to sin if i read this book? I am really quite terrified of this book. lol. Sounds lame but for real, help me please?

No you are not going to hell and I'm a christian saying that

All of this discussion has gotten off of the oricinal topic of who here is a true Christian or not? That means do you follow the Bible (real christian) or make your own path (not)?

Oops "original" brainfart.

Just to make my post clear, I never answered if you are going to hell, you will not go to hell for reading it, I just personally would not recommend reading it, it's totally up to you though.

No where in the scriptures does it say reading another book is a sin. Now following its word and worshiping another deity other than Yahweh (G-d's true name) is a sin. That is the reason I am no long a Christian. I used to be a Christian, but for the past year I have been discovering the difference between truth and the "great delusion" Paul addressed in 2nd Thessalonian Chapter 2 Verse 11. The entire B-ble as well as most of the english language is filled with paganism, which is one thing that angers Yahweh the most. Oh and to clarify something with you, and this may be hard to believe, but I can prove it.

There is no hell, no lake of burning fire, no eternal torment. This is proven in one of the most well known verses of all time, but is simply overlooked. Read John 3:16 a couple times and tell me what you get from it. Those who believe in the Messiah, Yehoshua (J-sus Chr-st is NOT his name, but is derived from the greek language and is based off of their pagan gods, therefore I am not allowed to speak it from my lips either) will have eternal life, but those who do not will perish. How can one perish if he is burning eternally in "hell"? Hell was derived from the word Gehenna which was a burning pit in Israel. It was used in a parable that was misinterpreted back in the fire and brimstone days, which has been passed through generations because it is embedded within our minds as truth.

Oh and a quick mention, there is no Satan or Devil known as Lucifer. I can prove that also.

If anyone is interested I have plenty more information which fully disproves modern Christian beliefs. I am still a follower of Yahweh, I am just more personal with him, rather than calling him by such a universal, valueless word such as G-d.

Amal, it really depends if you're a protestant or a catholic. Protestants (Luthernists?) are probably the most respectable sect of christians.
Denmark is the product of a protestant country. Most danes don't care about God, they don't follow the Bible, they follow the law. Atheism is the way to go, in my opinion, but protestants are also okay, aslong as they stay out politics, which is pretty much what they do, in Denmark.

I'm an atheist myself though, stopped believeing around the age of 6. Even in that age, I realized, that a God is simply not possible, a being with such power and wisdom can not exist. Not in our universe.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Amal, it really depends if you're a protestant or a catholic. Protestants (Luthernists?) are probably the most respectable sect of christians.
Denmark is the product of a protestant country. Most danes don't care about God, they don't follow the Bible, they follow the law. Atheism is the way to go, in my opinion, but protestants is also okay, aslong as they stay out politics, which is pretty much what they do, in Denmark.

I'm an atheist myself though, stopped believeing around the age of 6. Even in that age, I realized, that a God is simply not possible, a being with such power and wisdom can not exist. Not in our universe.

yeah same in finland, im a protestant (lutheran or how ever u spell it)