I think we're winning

**Sornaensis** · 08-09-2007 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Lucid_boy

It's very ignorant to call all poor people slackoffs. Most of them get thrown out because they lost there job or have a drug problem, not because they are lazy. It's not about giving all your possesions away so that they live luxiourious lives but it is about helping others so that they can at least have the bare neccesitys. I am pretty sure gods not going to get mad because you helped others but failed to give away your house.

H/D is right, they won't be grateful. Hell, look at New Orleans, those people had a week to leave, but they're IGNORANT, so they stayed, and lots of 'em died.

Most hobos are hobos because:
They are mentally ill.
They have no desire to work.
They have a drug problem.
They like the life.

Originally Posted by SilverZero

God doesn't give anybody cancer. It's a natural side-effect of death entering the world at the Fall. And that argument seemed so compelling at first. . . .

Jesus didn't want us to give things away to get thanks. We give because we love, and because it all belongs to God anyway, and it helps us release our grip on the natural world that blinds us to the supernatural (as in "extremely natural") spiritual world.

Cancer has been around forever, it has NOTHING to do with the end of the world, you (<*Automatically censored*>). It is a cell disease where a clump of cells start growing at an abnormal rate, causing lumps, or tumors. Cancer can't be caused by almost anything.

Jesus preached that we shouldn't have possesions, we shouldn't be innovative, we should only care about everyone else. Which, in some cases, is good. But... Human sense of self-preservation will get in the way. Not to mention after a while you WILL get taken advantage of.

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-09-2007 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Umm... no offense, but you gain power by controlling stupid, uneducated people with fear. "Iraq is evil, we must attack and free them!", "Oh no, They speak the truth, terror is upon us!" and you attack them. When smart people, or people capable to come to their own conclusion it's more like "We are not supporting you because what you say is stupid." And then the nation hates "him". I'm definitely not saying that all Americans are "stupid", but I mostly believe that what I said is true and it is true :p .

Last time I checked we were #1 Superpower, totally awesome, greatest country in history before we invaded Iraq. Our capitalism made us the greatest nation.

This post illustrates that you don't know jack about America (God forbid if you live here). People who speak out against the war, 75% of Americans, get praised, not hated.

I have come up with my own conclusions. I don't think Saddam was a physical threat to US soil. I think he was a rotten seed in a shitty streach of land we call "the Middle East", who was constantly threatening the peace of the area. Our invasion was perfectly justified, and I'm seriously pissed off that every UN involved "countries" aren't helping us out. Freggin puppets. Worthless, self obsessed, inferiority complex ridden puppets.

Iran is up next, so be ready. Don't think that makes me happy, because I'm probably going to have to go there. If Iran does some shit and warrants an attack (like buying a nuke), and the UN doesn't back the invasion with troops, the US will leave the UN. America has honestly had it with UN BS. Then that puny little orgainization will loose whatever shread of power it had left.

**Bonsay** · 08-09-2007 09:06 PM

Communism rocks... but anyway. I don't understand why you are so offensive. I was giving an example. Don't start another Iraq debate. I know exactly what you think. It's useless to debate anything, since it seems that all you know is violence and death, go and kill if you wish, I won't and I'm not afraid. lol

**Neruo** · 08-09-2007 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bonsay

Communism rocks... but anyway. I don't understand why you are so offensive. I was giving an example. Don't start another Iraq debate. I know exactly what you think. It's useless to debate anything, since it seems that all you know is violence and death, go and kill if you wish, I won't and I'm not afraid. lol

Haha. Touche.

Perhaps I too should just keep it at that, seeing that arguing has proven not to work. You're right. I am not at all afraid of terrorism or anything stupid like that, and I have no reason to be afraid.

Chizzle the shizzle, wizzle.

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-09-2007 09:39 PM

Sorry, dude, I'm just a little tense. I'm going to Basic Training in 7 days.

Both of you are right. None of us are really afraid of terrorism. The law of averages alone makes me not worry about it.

Communism sucks. Capitalism is awesome. I don't give a crap if "true" communism has never existed. Has it ever occured to you that "true" communism has never existed because its impossible? The greatest nations on earth are Capitalist. The worst, most vile, fanatical nations are Communist.

Look at the difference between South Korea and North Korea. Need I say more?

You guys like communism because it sounds good to your ears. You think the government should solve all your problems. Tell me, are you really about to hand every aspect of your life over to the government?

**Neruo** · 08-09-2007 09:51 PM

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Both of you are right. None of us are really afraid of terrorism. The law of averages alone makes me not worry about it.

Communism sucks. Capitalism is awesome. I don't give a crap if "true" communism has never existed. Has it ever occured to you that "true" communism has never existed because its impossible? The greatest nations on earth are Capitalist. The worst, most vile, fanatical nations are Communist.

Look at the difference between South Korea and North Korea. Need I say more?

You guys like communism because it sounds good to your ears. You think the government should solve all your problems. Tell me, are you really about to hand every aspect of your life over to the government?

Welcome to 'The Wrong Forum'!

We've been over this enough. Perfect communism probably is unlikely, impossible at our current level of technology/culture. Modernday Communistic nations are dictatorships, they have nothing to do with what marx and lenin and such intented.

But I have told all this already, did you forgot or something?

Sorry, dude, I'm just a little tense. I'm going to Basic Training in 7 days.

Holy shit? Going to 'rack too? :0 Well, at least you aren't a hypocrite. I wonder how many pro-war congressmen children / pro-war collage graduates are going in the army. Wait, I don't wonder.

**Bonsay** · 08-09-2007 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Sorry, dude, I'm just a little tense. I'm going to Basic Training in 7 days.

Tell me, are you really about to hand every aspect of your life over to the government?

How does it work, how long must you be trained until you are "eligable" to be sent somewhere?

Oh and Depends what kind of government. We were also talking about the communism that never existed...yet!

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-09-2007 10:06 PM

Selfishness of the average citizen and leaders is what makes communism fail. Selfishness is too good of a survival tool for it to dissapear. Communism will therefore always fail, unless a giagantic population simultaneously stopped caring about themelves and started communism. The population would also have to keep this ideal for eternity. A single generation of disgruntled people would bring failure. Like you said, it is impossible with our current culture.

At the very minimum I could be in Iraq within 3 months of being assigned to a unit (so like 6 months from now). Thats assuming the unit I get assigned to gets its orders as soon as I am assigned.

Death to al Qaeda!!!

**Neruo** · 08-09-2007 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

Selfishness of the average citizen and leaders is what makes communism fail. Selfishness is too good of a survival tool for it to dissapear. Communism will therefore always fail, unless a giagantic population simultaneously stopped caring about themelves and started communism. The population would also have to keep this ideal for eternity. A single generation of disgruntled people would bring failure. Like you said, it is impossible with our current culture.

:0

we agree.

At the very minimum I could be in Iraq within 3 months of being assigned to a unit (so like 6 months from now). Thats assuming the unit I get assigned to gets its orders as soon as I am assigned.

Death to al Qaeda!!!

Wow. 6 months.. that's near. But besides the minimum-scenario: What are the overall odds you'll go to Iraq one day?

Oh, and don't forget: Less than 1% of the people in Iraq is Al Quadia or an other terrorist group. Most people are just innocent sheeple. So, don't shoot the sheeple, okay?

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-09-2007 10:58 PM

100% chance of me going to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Don't shoot civilians??? Don't you know thats why we went there in the first place? We have to let our 99% redneck fanatical Christian population vent somehow. Why not shoot Muslims?

**Neruo** · 08-10-2007 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

100% chance of me going to Iraq or Afghanistan.

Don't shoot civilians??? Don't you know thats why we went there in the first place? We have to let our 99% redneck fanatical Christian population vent somehow. Why not shoot Muslims?

Exactly, It happens like every day some innocent people get shot, but hey, you can't blame rednecks for being rednecks, can you?

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-10-2007 12:42 AM

And its so seriously 99% of our population. All Christians too!!! All that mumbo jumbo you hear about us being the most culturaly diverse nation on the planet is....mumbo jumbo.

**Neruo** · 08-10-2007 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

And its so seriously 99% of our population. All Christians too!!! All that mumbo jumbo you hear about us being the most culturaly diverse nation on the planet is....mumbo jumbo.

Yeah, what is more culturally diverse than people of all colours stuffing their fat faces with McDonald's?!

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-10-2007 01:25 AM

100% of Americans eat McDonalds. I had Micky D's 6 times just today! We can't help it. There is a gene in Americans that makes us crave crappy, fatty food. It is also the gene that makes us the greatest superpower in history.

**Neruo** · 08-10-2007 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming

100% of Americans eat McDonalds. I had Micky D's 6 times just today! We can't help it. There is a gene in Americans that makes us crave crappy, fatty food. It is also the gene that makes us the greatest superpower in history.

I would have to give more respect to Alexander the Great, or even Great Britain in 1900.

**Half/Dreaming** · 08-10-2007 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Neruo

I would have to give more respect to Alexander the Great, or even Great Britain in 1900.

Nope. America is the greatest. Our influence extends to every nation on Earth, something that has never been acheived before.

To think we are all a bunch of obese, evangalistic, bully rednecks. And its so seriously 99% of us!!!

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