Im thinking outloud here but how can you say that there is not a higher power? i mean i know the Big bang theory but then again what created the particles for the big bang? What created the flow of time itself? |
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1) Wrong forum |
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Thats insulting my friend.... Obviously you have not read the bible a lot have you? Anyway i will come up with an argument, I was simply stating that for the flow of time to appear all of a sudden? To me that is as far fetched as you athiests as a god existing...... EDIT Who says that gods have to exist from energy? After all he/she is all powerfull and created energy itself |
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I'm sorry? An insult? No, I mean, if the universe exists, then obviously Scientology is correct. |
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Sorry hear me out here.. The earth if it was any smaller an atmosphere would be impossible... if it was bigger it would only contain free hydrogen, and it has the right mixes of gas food "equipment" etc. for animal life plant life and human life to exist. The earth is located excactly at the right distance from the sun. If we were any close, i litterely mean ANY closer we would all burn, any farther and we would all freeze. The earth also has the right angles and axis to warm and cool it for the life to survive. There is many other factors which i wont get into... yet |
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Who said the flow of time just suddenly appeared? Just as matter and energy always existed, so did time, as time of some sort is required for anything to exist. And becoming an atheist is part of my personal development, just as either being brainwashed by religion, succumbing to your fears of your life being but a limited existence, wanting a meaning for your existence aside from existing to exist, or one of many other things caused to become a theist as part of yours. As to God not having to exist from energy, God would merely be a consciousness with profound powers, however, consciousness of any kind requires thought, and since thought is composed of energy so must God. And unless God is exempt from the natural laws of the universe, and can also destroy and recreate them, it is not possible for he/she/it to create energy. |
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Firstly im in grade 8 i dont have bio yet, secondly the odds of this excact lifesetting to happen is probably 1 to a 100 googleplex? |
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... How the hell does that relate to islam at all? i am stating that there IS a higher power, im not saying that anything is 1 true faith! I know that there is a higher power |
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Wow, I actually know what a googleplex is. In any case, you assume that this is the only planet with life in the universe, and apparently don't know the meaning of the word probability. Statistically speaking, a huge hunk of rock bearing amounts of each element with the amount each element being at least, if not more than, enough to eventually start and maintain life with the rock being close enough to a star to eventually support life after countless years of development would have to happen somewhere, some when in the universe. |
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Im glad to see some sort of amusement coming out of this thread XD, anyway, ill try a different approach, a general rule of the universe is that anything that exists has a creation, this applies inside the universe, why does it not apply to the universe? one more thing i also need to say, we are debating at different levels here, its hard to explain do you know what i mean? |
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Supergod in three... two... |
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yes i do, sorry that was a type i am eating hot dogs right now, and please Mark if your not going to be serious leave this thread |
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Going by that assumption, God would also have to be created to exist. The only way for that to happen would be for either 1) God creates himself and time after both he and time exists, or 2) God goes back in time. Either way way is not only highly unlikely, but also highly speculative. I have yet to see or hear of anything that could not easily be attributed to parapsycholigical phenomena, and therefore fall under the laws of the universe (which is means the same thing as the laws of physics, just in case you didn't figure that out for some reason). |
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ok then... but the entire point im trying to get at is that god is the universe, he is everything yet he/she is nothing, he is all mighty, however your logic is not flawed, but the thing is he was there at the beggening, on different levels of existance, and time, on parralell dimmensions etc |
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Jones' Brand Soda is the universe. |
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This thread belongs in the Religion/Spirituality forum. |
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