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      Quote Originally Posted by Ne-yo View Post
      I can believe he's 15 that statement is pretty typical of a common child's mind (ages 8-12). The crazy thing to me Universal mind is that you're commending his ignorance. Maybe I don't fully understand because I'm not Atheist, so my way of thinking is totally different from yours. Whatever the case may be that statement in itself is probably the dumbest thing I've heard in a while.
      It wasn't just that statement. I mainly quoted it to show whom I was addressing. But that statement did show some insightful skepticism concerning the Judeo-Christian God. His name is not Allah, Bill, or Ralph or anything like that. His proper name is based on his common name. It's pretty funny if you think about it. What if my name was Human (capital "H") and I named myself that? It would be sort of arrogant, don't you think?

      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Is that sarcasm?
      No. I don't think most 15 year olds have the level of insight you have into religion.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      No. I don't think most 15 year olds have the level of insight you have into religion.
      And you are right.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post

      That stement cannot be stupid because it is correct.

      And it cannot be incorrect because it is purely subjective to me.

      You can't even spell "Statement" correctly so how do you know whats correct and whats not?

      Besides you're Atheist right? What do you care of God's name. This shouldn't even be a debate for you because why care about something you know in your mind doesn't exist.

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      1. Common spelling mistake on a keyboard when I type fast and are multitasking.
      2. You never rejected the validity of my argument, and the rest is just the same as the first, fluff.

      I am correct until proven otherwise.

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      OKay Seis, I think you've been jerking us around enough and some of us are tired of you dodging the question, so answer it already.

      Whose the chick as your avatar? Cause she's smoking

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ne-yo View Post
      You can't even spell "Statement" correctly so how do you know whats correct and whats not?

      Besides you're Atheist right? What do you care of God's name. This shouldn't even be a debate for you because why care about something you know in your mind doesn't exist.
      To your first point; spelling errors have no bearing on what someone knows or doesn't know, for all you know he could be dyslexic, it doesn't mean he knows any less as a person.





      And your second point; I don't believe that the dark lord Sauron exists but i care somewhat about his actions and the story and characters. Thats how fucking stupid your point is.

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      Thats because there is nothing to recject. My point stands clear, which you seem to disregard just like other Atheist when I throw out that question. What do you care if you don't even believe that God exist?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Needcatscan View Post
      OKay Seis, I think you've been jerking us around enough and some of us are tired of you dodging the question, so answer it already.

      Whose the chick as your avatar? Cause she's smoking
      I'm assuming this is a joke.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Needcatscan View Post
      OKay Seis, I think you've been jerking us around enough and some of us are tired of you dodging the question, so answer it already.

      Whose the chick as your avatar? Cause she's smoking
      I will once again elude that question by reiterateing: Me

      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      To your first point; spelling errors have no bearing on what someone knows or doesn't know, for all you know he could be dyslexic, it doesn't mean he knows any less as a person.
      I am dyslexic, actually. Not severely, though.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      To your first point; spelling errors have no bearing on what someone knows or doesn't know, for all you know he could be dyslexic, it doesn't mean he knows any less as a person.
      You have a point but I don't take people seriously when they don't even take time to spell check themselves, thats just a pet peeve of mine. Besides I don't care for excuses. IMO if you want to debate you need to take every step to make your credibility stand out.


      Quote Originally Posted by Carousoul View Post
      And your second point; I don't believe that the dark lord Sauron exists but i care somewhat about his actions and the story and characters. Thats how fucking stupid your point is.
      Wow you're quick on the draw. It usually takes the average Atheist at least 4 or 5 post replies before they start cursing me out, but I see you like to cut to the chase huh? Thats funny you actually said "I care somewhat about "HIS" actions. Seems as though subconciously you believe in his existence.
      Last edited by Ne-yo; 01-29-2008 at 11:43 PM.

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      existance.
      OMG FAIL.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Is that sarcasm?
      I'd believe it. I'm 16, and I figured that you were older because I usually carry intelligent conversations with people that are around their twenties or older. You have a high capacity for intellectual thought. You could do better though.

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      This forum is a terrible example of my writing capabilities. Moreso logic and critical thinking.

      But let me not get conceited here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ne-yo View Post
      You have a point but I don't take people seriously when they don't even take time to spell check themselves, thats just a pet peeve of mine. Besides I don't care for excuses. IMO if you want to debate you need to take every step to make your credibility stand out.




      Wow you're quick on the draw. It usually takes the average Atheist at least 4 or 5 post replies before they start cursing me out, but I see you like to cut to the chase huh? Thats funny you actually said "I care somewhat about "HIS" actions. Seems as though subconciously you believe in his existence.


      Actually by "his" i was reffering to sauron.

      Does that mean i subconsciouslly believe in him?




      edit; shit, spelling errors. THOUSANDS.



      edit; also, what's your response to my point. I know I swore.



      ps, i love you.
      Last edited by Carôusoul; 01-29-2008 at 11:47 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Carôusoul View Post
      Actually by "his" i was reffering to sauron.

      Does that mean i subconsciouslly believe in him?
      So when did this conversation switch gears to The Lord of the Rings? My bad it's pretty obvious you and I were talking about 2 different things. I was talking about Christianity and it seems you were talking about The Lord of the Rings.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ne-yo View Post
      So when did this conversation switch gears to The Lord of the Rings? My bad it's pretty obvious you and I were talking about 2 different things. I was talking about Christianity and it seems you were talking about The Lord of the Rings.

      It's called an analogy.

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      Call it an Analogy if you want to. I call it side-stepping the question. A little misdirection is something you people always try and in the end the question is always evaded.

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      Actually, it was a perfect analogy.

      You said it was pointless for me to care what God's name was, Caro pointed out that Sauron doesn't exist, but he is concerned with his actions in the story.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Actually, it was a perfect analogy.

      You said it was pointless for me to care what God's name was, Caro pointed out that Sauron doesn't exist, but he is concerned with his actions in the story.
      Once again evading the question. Let me rephrase it, maybe the question is a little too complicated. Why do you care of God's name, actions etc...?

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      *Sigh*

      And then you people tell me I evade the question.... If you don't understand what UM or Caro said, then I cannot help you any further.

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      You know what? Forget it.

      I Miss Tsen at least he would give me a run for my money.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Ne-yo View Post
      Once again evading the question. Let me rephrase it, maybe the question is a little too complicated. Why do you care of God's name, actions etc...?
      Probably because people hold the irrational belief that it is real.

      You'd care if people started believing that Ronald McDonald was real, or as a theist, maybe you wouldn't.
      NO

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      Quote Originally Posted by wannywan View Post
      Probably because people hold the irrational belief that it is real.

      You'd care if people started believing that Ronald McDonald was real, or as a theist, maybe you wouldn't.
      Also people care about others believing in god because Christians in America have completely dominated the political system, forcing people who want to be in politics to lie and claim to be Christian (Obama, for example).

      Also because people who believe in god suicide bomb your ass.

      Honestly. Is NOBODY aware of the world around them?? I guess not, since they're so busy fantasizing about heaven.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Also because people who believe in god suicide bomb your ass.

      What is with you and generalisations? What is wrong with you?

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      Quote Originally Posted by wannywan View Post
      Probably because people hold the irrational belief that it is real.

      You'd care if people started believing that Ronald McDonald was real, or as a theist, maybe you wouldn't.
      So are you part of those people you're referring to? Because if not then I'm not asking you to speak on behalf of people that do believe. I'm asking a direct question, which for some reason keeps getting avoided with a lot of evasive replies.

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