Thread: McCain advisor: Destroy Islam

Originally Posted by Seismosaur

Some 60% of Christians are Catholic, however.

Well take it up with them. Catholics are a very different breed of Christian to Protestants.

Not really.

Protestants: Further divided into sects. They don't believe the pope has authority.

Catholics: Believe the pope has authority.

But you both read from the same book, and the book is that which is in question and not necessarily directed JUST-AT-YOU.

Uh, yes. Salvation, the aim of maintaing religion, varies between the two. Catholics believe that good acts alone can achieve salvation. Whereas Protestants believe it is solely through Jesus. That is the key seperator.

And their bible has extra books.

Not true; surely you protestents only believe an "extension" of catholicism then.

Good deeds through Christ.

Oh and Bibles vary by version.

Not good deeds through Christ. But a belief in him.

And why are you telling me that bibles vary by version?

But you still have to repent and believe.

Oh and because there are... Thousands of versions of bibles?

If you really want to get away from Catholicism, look at Mormonism.

Originally Posted by psychology student

No, I saw those quotes.
From your analogy and your previous post I am concerned that you think that Christianity is, for the most part, terrible, with good patches. When I assure you that, from my experience, the opposite is true.

to be honest its not just christianity its all religion, its a disease on the mind of our spieces, it takes advantage of the ignorance of society taking both money, human life whilst also standing fully in the way of human progress.

I hear people say oh its not bad but they are wrong, how much pain must something cause before its classed as bad? genital mutilation? maybe the persecution of innocent people because they have different life styles like gay people? or how about polluting peoples minds into believing they are some kind of superior beings like Hitler or evangilists or the taliban? Is a religion bad for suicide bombings? or how about attempted genocide from the crucades? how about promoting the belief that anyone outside their sect is gonna burn and be tortured for ever and is it a good thing that people take pleasure in that.

Maybe I am being unfair, after all things like charity, love, family, peer bonding are good right? but which religion takes claim for that because they all have them? or is it simply that these are not the result of a teaching from a god but human traits originating from man and not god and therefore they would exist even if there was no religion.

Maybe I am harsh in my view but I dont think the few good acts by a few religious people make up for many thousands of years of cruelty.

So yeah I believe we would be better off with out religion

So youre telling me that Christianity is to blame for Hitler. Uh, I don't think so; there is a scientific field called eugenics that you might like to look at. Science, not religion.

Originally Posted by psychology student

So youre telling me that Christianity is to blame for Hitler. Uh, I don't think so; there is a scientific field called eugenics that you might like to look at. Science, not religion.

No, please dont misunderstand me (I should have been more clear) I am not saying that religion was the cause of that, that would be stupid. I am saying it warped peoples minds enough to make it a justiforcation for the treatment of Jews.

It clearly played on the beliefs of the majority of the then German population and helped make it possible. You see it in most religons something done in the name of God is taken much better then if it is just done for the sake of it