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      500+ Freed from ex-Mormon sex cult

      I can't grab the link with my phone, so if someone could link the story I'd appreciate it, but this floored me.

      Texas authorities Monday removed over 400 minors, mostly young teenage girls, and 133 adult women from a compound of the Fundamentalist Church of Latter Day Saints outside Eldorado. The group splintered from the Mormon church over 100 years ago when the larger church renounced polygamy. Many of these people have never known life outside the compound.

      It's just insane--I doubt there are 400 teenage girls in my hometown.
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      Saw this in the metro's paper this morning and almost posted it myself. A 16-year old girl in the compound called the authorities saying she was abused and that young girls 14 to 15 were being forced into marriages with much older men. The 133 women left of their own volition.

      Here's the story from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24009286/
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      Polygamy = Old men raping children.
      Thanks, MSNBC.

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      Yeah, they've been talking about this for the past couple of days, since the police rushed in there, on Sunday. Crazy shit.
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      I don't see how these people can even say polygamy is right. I relize that they are mormons and have their own book of laws but the bible is still a part of their deal and the bible, at least the NT, frowns on polygamy.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucid_boy View Post
      I don't see how these people can even say polygamy is right. I relize that they are mormons and have their own book of laws but the bible is still a part of their deal and the bible, at least the NT, frowns on polygamy.
      That's just on of the many metaphors.

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      In my view, polygamy was the least of their evils. I'd say forcing a girl of 14 to marry her own cousin against her will and conceive is tantamount to rape.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucid_boy View Post
      I don't see how these people can even say polygamy is right. I relize that they are mormons and have their own book of laws but the bible is still a part of their deal and the bible, at least the NT, frowns on polygamy.
      Well, I don't see how you can view slavery and stoning as wrong. The Bible Old Testament orders you to do them, and it's half of your scripture.

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      THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT MORMONS. They are Mormon "fundamentalists". They have nothing to do with the main stream Mormon church. Please don't confuse us with this small sick cult.

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      ^^ Same ol' argument.

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      Are you going to argue that these people are in some way affiliated with the LDS church? These people are Mormon like your average Baptist is a member of the WBC.

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      Sick world, people who make people do sexual acts against their will should be punched, castrated, drowned, shot stabbed and have their ears torn off by rabbits.
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Thumbs up o

      sick basterds they should be hung.

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      Quote Originally Posted by sam dreamer View Post
      sick basterds they should be hung.
      Please post more in this forum, it's always a joy to read your posts.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      Please post more in this forum, it's always a joy to read your posts.
      lol he is kinda funny and random
      I would rather die on my feet then to live on my knees.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 27 View Post
      Are you going to argue that these people are in some way affiliated with the LDS church? These people are Mormon like your average Baptist is a member of the WBC.
      I'm not a fan of the LDS, but he's actually right that this group more or less broke away from their church some time ago. The LDS church does not recognize them.
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      i guess it depends on what verses they choose to follow.

      like maybe they followed Jesus when he said this: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

      basically follow OT please, then from OT they got this:

      God’s command to “be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth”

      Deut 21:15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated...

      Chronicles 4:5 And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.

      Samuel (12:7-8)
      "Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel ... and I gave thee ... thy master's wives."


      Now i know God doesn't directly approve polygamy here, but people read from scripture what they want to see. They see many Biblical characters with multiple wives, so they think they are allowed to, i know God also says it is not allowed, but this is what they take literally i guess.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      Polygamy = Old men raping children.
      Thanks, MSNBC.
      Yeah no kidding... That also struck a note with me when I saw it on some news that was playing last night. Clearly, "old men raping children" is catholicism and not polygamy

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      I cant beleive you can fit that many ppl on a ranch. Its like a mini village.
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      Quote Originally Posted by cuddleyperson View Post
      i guess it depends on what verses they choose to follow.

      like maybe they followed Jesus when he said this: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished. (Matthew 5:17-18)"

      basically follow OT please, then from OT they got this:

      God’s command to “be fruitful and multiply, fill the earth”

      Deut 21:15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated...

      Chronicles 4:5 And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.

      Samuel (12:7-8)
      "Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel ... and I gave thee ... thy master's wives."


      Now i know God doesn't directly approve polygamy here, but people read from scripture what they want to see. They see many Biblical characters with multiple wives, so they think they are allowed to, i know God also says it is not allowed, but this is what they take literally i guess.
      That verse has been twisted so much, it is begining to annoy me. The people where freaking and jesus told them chill, I am not here to trash what you believe, I am here to fulfill a few prophecies. He never said he wouldn't make changes he just said he wouldn't trash Judaism.


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      yes but like i said, you can see in the verse what you want to. Sometimes one Vicar may use it in a sermon to talk about some OT laws he thinks still stand, where at the same time another vicar may be discussing what you were saying about him not meaning OT laws were still to be followed. Some OT laws are followed, so it's hard to know which ones your supposed to follow and which you aren't.
      Lugggs and cuddles and hugs for all!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      Please post more in this forum, it's always a joy to read your posts.
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      lol he is kinda funny and random
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      Don't be hatin' on the Mormons. They banned polygamy a while ago...but these are just extremist sects.

      That being said, I think it's horrible for people to be forced into marriages with people they don't like / people they aren't ready to marry. Seriously.

      And just to be entertaining, "sects" sounds like "sex".

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