Thanks for answering the questions. I'll get to comments.
Originally Posted by Lucid_boy
Ok I sense some confusion here, as far as I know the disciples do not claim that they are part of God at all, just that they are his servants and have been given the ability to preform miracles. Jesus does distinguish himself from God in many ways, you just have to think of it like this, Jesus is God incarnate. Jesus is the loving forgiving side of Gods personality which God deposited in a person and then brought to life through mary the Virgin, in this way Jesus was God but not God, seperate but the same. This is an incredibly confusing topic and I am probably not the best person to answer this question. I guess the thing to do would be to look at the three leaf clover, three seperate parts, one whole.
Yeah, it's a kind of confusing topic unless you get my whole story. Here's a thread I made a while back, with the whole concept.
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/showthread.php?t=53674
I am going to take a hit here. This is one of the things where I can explain it to myself and wrap my own mind around it but can't put it into words. I guess I would say that it is because God lets us make our own decisions and live with those choices. I know that this is a BAD answer, give me a bit more time to do some research and I promise I will get back to you with a better answer at a latter time.
I must have forgotten to put "all-forgiving" in the question also. If God always forgives, then there is no need for a hell.
This question, unlike your last one, has a simple answer. God permitted the possibility for evil and sin because he wanted to be able to experince real love. When he created man he made them free, he wanted beings to associate with that could make their own decisions and have their own feelings, he didn't want puppets he controled. How can you have free people that experince real love without the possibillity of hate. If I was forced to love you all the time with no alternative would that be true love? Sin and evil is just rebellion against gods love, we are saying screw you God we would rather do it our own way, forget your love. It is choosing to hate him through action.
Is it sin if we do not know of God's love, yet commit acts that are viewed as sins by Christians, even if they are not very morally wrong? What if somebody knows of God's love, and sins, but not for the sake of sin, but to get by in life?
These are wrong, it's just that simple. You have to remember that the church and conversion are all human endavours and therefore subject to human flaw, sometimes the wrong tactics get used, just like in a war (not that I'm saying conversion is a war.)
So you view them as wrong or mistakes made by the Church and many Christians or you neglect them? I'm confused from your wording a little bit.
If the first, then you agree that Christianity is enshrouded in hypocrisy. (Not necessarily directed at you or bad for you, just for the religion as a whole.) If the latter, then you are obviously ignorant.
The uncertainty of intepretation is another human flaw that has harmed religion. You have to remember that the bible was written over 2,000yrs ago and people might have lost track of exactly which parts where literal and which parts metephorical. As for the slavery and the stoning of women both of those things where denounced upon the arival of Jesus as were the food requirements.
That is exactly my point. Because it was written so long ago and has lost so much meaning and interpretation, as well as how to interpret, it leaves it as a very unreliable source of any historical relevance. When it turns completely metaphoric, it is only a set of morals
I never knew or heard of them being denounced. Is there any scripture showing this? I remember mostly hearing and reading scriptures where Jesus had said something about the lines of the Torah being completely correct.
Both the church/christian community and I believe that both Agnostics/Atheists and people of any other religion will go to hell upon death.
So, is there any chance that you are in the wrong religion, and will consequently go to Hell because the right religion says so?
This is the sad part about Christianity. The arrogance, ignorance, and hypocrisy surpass any other group of people.
I believe morality can exsist outside of God's command and that it is not the only source of morality.
K.
I believe that evolution carried on normally outside of the Garden and after Adam and eve commited the first sin he sluaghtered the dinosuars, spread the modern vegitation and then threw them out and killed the garden.
It sounds like a highly distorted form of scripture that keeps getting twisted as science furthers itself.
Many people believe that a verse in paul's letter to the romans condemns Homosexuals. I think that being Homosexualy oriented is perfectly ok but actually engaging in homosexual acts is the sin. I think that if one seeks forgiveness and then trys to resist acting on their urges they are going to heaven.
Homosexuals are humans just as you and I are. It's not a voluntary thing, and although it may not obviously be the normal, it's not controllable. Just as you and I have sexual urges for women and straight girls have sexual urges for men, they have the same urges, but for opposite genders. Acting upon something that seems only natural to your physiology can't be considered morally wrong, because your body makes it chemically right.
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