My Insight On Christianity..

**bluefinger** · 07-17-2008 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dreamcaster

I would have sided with option 2 myself. I believe the criteria that historians use to weigh the validity of events is a lot more detailed then the one your using, but for the sake of argument... Just because there are few references to a specific event in history doesn't suddenly mean that the said event didn't occur. I mean look at the city of Troy. Based on your logic, the city of Troy is a 'lie' as well.

Honestly I don't think your arguements have anyhting to do with historical accuricy, it has to do with an underlying views that make you bias. Why are you all so afraid of Christ anyway. Embrace Him.

Troy has been shown to exist thanks to Archaeology, but that does not make the tales of the Illiad and Odyssey true, as both were written as fictional stories and not factual accounts. If they were, we would also find additional historical accounts that would corroborate with the works of Homer. Very much like the Epic of Gilgamesh, in which though the main character is based on a historical king, the story itself is not written as a factual account. Also, the logic I used could have been implied that though the tales of the Illiad may not be accurate, one could still assume that some sort of conflict occurred which inspired the author to base a fictional story on. But as it is a work of fiction, you can't rely on such a source for factual evidence.

The Bible tries to paint itself as being a factual account, therefore it should be treated with the same scepticism that is applied onto anything that makes the claim of being based on fact. This means looking up on what it claims to be historical occurrences and checking with other documents of the period. If things don't match up with what is known, then you can be sceptical of what the Bible claims. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

As for accepting Christ, he could go suck on a choad for all I care. I worship Longcat, the longest being in existence.

**Dreamcaster** · 07-17-2008 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by bluefinger

Troy has been shown to exist thanks to Archaeology, but that does not make the tales of the Illiad and Odyssey true, as both were written as fictional stories and not factual accounts. If they were, we would also find additional historical accounts that would corroborate with the works of Homer. Very much like the Epic of Gilgamesh, in which though the main character is based on a historical king, the story itself is not written as a factual account. Also, the logic I used could have been implied that though the tales of the Illiad may not be accurate, one could still assume that some sort of conflict occurred which inspired the author to base a fictional story on. But as it is a work of fiction, you can't rely on such a source for factual evidence.

The Bible tries to paint itself as being a factual account, therefore it should be treated with the same scepticism that is applied onto anything that makes the claim of being based on fact. This means looking up on what it claims to be historical occurrences and checking with other documents of the period. If things don't match up with what is known, then you can be sceptical of what the Bible claims. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.

As for accepting Christ, he could go suck on a choad for all I care. I worship Longcat, the longest being in existence.

No it isn't a difficult concept to grasp, but in the same right if there are things that match up with what is known, then it suggests that not everything the Bible claims is so dubious.

The bible isn't just a historical account. It's uses a number of literary devices in addition to history. This doesn't make that the accounts that are historical any less accurate. In the same way Troy was real despite the mythical accounts that revolve around it, in the same way Jesus is real. And his works are real.

And you still haven't answered my question, who is longcat. Regardless, longcat pales in front of the infinity that is Christ. Longcat would be fortunate to even be blessed with a fraction of His glory.

**bluefinger** · 07-17-2008 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dreamcaster

No it isn't a difficult concept to grasp, but in the same right if there are things that match up with what is known, then it suggests that not everything the Bible claims is so dubious.

O RLY? And what might those things be, if I may ask?

Originally Posted by Dreamcaster

The bible isn't just a historical account. It's uses a number of literary devices in addition to history. This doesn't make that the accounts that are historical any less accurate. In the same way Troy was real despite the mythical accounts that revolve around it, in the same way Jesus is real. And his works are real.

So... where's the Book of Jesus in the Bible then? Also, the Bible does not distinguish allegory from literal fact almost all of the time, so in that regard, it is near impossible to have a commonly accepted interpretation that would paint a historically accurate picture of what Jesus did and who he was. If Jesus was as wise as the Bible claims, why did he not have the foresight to write down his ideas into his own book by which to perpetuate his teachings?

Also, where are those historical documents made by the historians of the time in regard to what was going on in Israel? Surely, if he made such an impact, there would be surviving documentation detailing such things.

Originally Posted by Dreamcaster

And you still haven't answered my question, who is longcat. Regardless, longcat pales in front of the infinity that is Christ. Longcat would be fortunate to even be blessed with a fraction of His glory.

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Longcat

Behold Longcat, for he is so long and wise. The Path of Longcat is a lengthy and windy path, stretching over the vast leagues of existence. To follow such a path will grant you the lengthy wisdom of Longcat. May he be very loooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnngg and may you be blessed by his length.

**Ne-yo** · 07-18-2008 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by bluefinger

Behold Longcat, for he is so long and wise. The Path of Longcat is a lengthy and windy path, stretching over the vast leagues of existence. To follow such a path will grant you the lengthy wisdom of Longcat. May he be very loooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnnngg and may you be blessed by his length.

Now I'm confused, I thought you were an Atheist bluefinger. What's with you and your worship of a long cat?

**bluefinger** · 07-18-2008 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Ne-yo

Now I'm confused, I thought you were an Atheist bluefinger. What's with you and your worship of a long cat?

Because Longcat is so very fucking long, that's why. Also, there are actual pics of Longcat, how could I possibly deny the existence of such an almighty length?