I want a new word for God

[Original Poster]

Okay so I belong to no organized religion though I follow the 8 fold path of Buddhism. There's this God character that keeps popping up with different names in these religions people keep following, and this archetype is protrayed as a masculine ruler of some paradise you go to after you die if you do his little parlor tricks. I still believe in a creative conciousness that we all emerged from originally and are the experiencers for. In a sense, the God in my mind that I've felt the presence of during OOBEs and heavy dosages of psychedelic drugs, is the conciousness in everything, both creative and receptive, including me. It's a big self that denotes everything, absolutely everything, as one single life form. The whole reason I'm doing this is because I heard the Hopi natives call God "Grandfather" and I thought it was the absolute shit but again it carries a masculine overtone that I don't like because it doesn't properly define this conscious root of our existence. I was thinking about calling it Ancestor but there's a lot more to it than that. What od you think would b e a better name that encompasses this all inclusive consciousness I believe in?

[Serkat]

New-Agery.

[Taosaur]

Sounds a lot like Brahma as conceived in the more mystical branches of Hinduism, as the ultimate self of the universe manifest in all forms. In a sense the world of forms is Brahma's dream, in which he plays all the parts very much in earnest until the time when he wakes and is all one again.

[Original Poster]

That, that pretty much sums it up.

[Taosaur]

Move along, folks. There's no more to see here.

[NonDualistic]

The masculine connotations do have a basis Male stands North facing south Female stands opposite of male Union of the two begets a third Part of each yet transcending both Do not be quick to discount that which is not understood Reality is a finely woven fabric of subtle, yet simple design

[Universal Mind]

Okay so I belong to no organized religion though I follow the 8 fold path of Buddhism. There's this God character that keeps popping up with different names in these religions people keep following, and this archetype is protrayed as a masculine ruler of some paradise you go to after you die if you do his little parlor tricks. I still believe in a creative conciousness that we all emerged from originally and are the experiencers for. In a sense, the God in my mind that I've felt the presence of during OOBEs and heavy dosages of psychedelic drugs, is the conciousness in everything, both creative and receptive, including me. It's a big self that denotes everything, absolutely everything, as one single life form. The whole reason I'm doing this is because I heard the Hopi natives call God "Grandfather" and I thought it was the absolute shit but again it carries a masculine overtone that I don't like because it doesn't properly define this conscious root of our existence. I was thinking about calling it Ancestor but there's a lot more to it than that. What od you think would b e a better name that encompasses this all inclusive consciousness I believe in? My favorite ones: Universal Mind (of course), the Tao, the One, the Infinite, Brahman, Nirvana (a state of mind and the one consciousness), and (Alan Watts' term) It. Sounds a lot like Brahma as conceived in the more mystical branches of Hinduism, as the ultimate self of the universe manifest in all forms. In a sense the world of forms is Brahma's dream, in which he plays all the parts very much in earnest until the time when he wakes and is all one again. Brahma is the masculine god of creation, and he is part of the trinity with Vishnu and Siva. The one consciousness that is all things is Brahman. Brahman's primary manifestations are Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva.

[Taosaur]

Brahma is the masculine god of creation, and he is part of the trinity with Vishnu and Siva. The one consciousness that is all things is Brahman. Brahman's primary manifestations are Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva. k, what he said

[juroara]

What od you think would b e a better name that encompasses this all inclusive consciousness I believe in? why do you want a new name? because you are too afraid? God does not mean bearded man in the sky. if you really believe in the all consciousness than redefine the word God to what it was always originally supposed to mean. God was never supposed to mean Zeus anyways. Then we can finally get rid of the negative and false connotations that God means. but if you really need a new terminology, then try using I AM. Not I am, but I AM. I AM THAT I AM. This is Gods name. Not a name as we know it, but pure consciousness aware of itself. At the same time, saying Gods name asks us to join in on this consciousness, since Gods name is always spoken in the first person. Gods name is meant to evoke your own awareness that you are apart of that God consciousness. You are 'I AM'. At one point Jesus simply says "I AM". Not "I am God". Just "I AM". traditionally, this consciousness has two aspects. masculine and feminine. the two roles are greatly misunderstood and have been described in the past as male and female gods. **************************** I understand you have a small problem with the idea of a masculine God. There is a lot of reasons for that. It has transformed the image of God into a male, which separates God from creation meaning God is no longer, the all consciousness, but an angry jealous crazy Zeus like figure. however, even in religions that have expressed a belief in the all consciousness, have also expressed a belief that this consciousness still has two aspects - masculine, feminine. or ying and yang. or alpha omega. what ever. here is my more spiritual Christian understanding of the roles of the divine masculine and the divine feminine. not to be confused with human ideas of female and male. this transcends human roles. The divine masculine is the aspect that is not created, and the feminine is the aspect that is created. creator and creation, one and the same consciousness. history tells us story how mankind fell, and its all a lady's fault. we are the feminine, we are the divine feminine, the created. we 'fell'. the fall is separation. the ego illusion that we are separate from God that God is separate from creation. thus, the girls take the blame. but really the blame is not on females if you understand. because we are the divine feminine. the church, us, humanity, also always been a female pronoun in christianity the church will marry christ - a masculine polarity. this marriage is symbolic of a state of being, a type of consciousness, and is not about a man and woman marrying. it is an individual event, not a time in history. in this christ consciousness, you become aware of BEING both created, and creator. you become ONE. understanding the masculine and the feminine are important I think, should anyone ever want to be 'One'. we can see why so many religions have failed, in most cases, through the persecution of the divine feminine in spirituality today, in new age, there is so much buzz about the divine feminine. it has surfaced today in many ways. one, a rejection of the angry masculine God who thinks of females as unworthy or less. two, a deeper and ancient respect for the earth, as a Mother still in painful labor with humanity. three, in wanting to raise the divine feminine herself to her rightful status, from which she 'fell'. and this, is the raising of consciousness. on a cosmic level.

[Needcatscan]

Okay, I'm going to preface this with that I am in a really bad mood, so don't take the anger part too seriously. why do you want a new name? because you are too afraid? The fuck is that supposed to mean? Where in any of what he said did he display fear and how could any of his statement be interpreted to represent fear? Get the fuck over yourself.

[Dreamworld]

Dude.. Calm down.. Anyways I think a good name would be "Omega" By the way I believe in God the same way you do, and massive amounts of psychedelics help that definition too.

[Needcatscan]

My bad. RREEEAAALLLY bad mood.

[Xaqaria]

My bad. RREEEAAALLLY bad mood. I tend to respond that way to Juroara as well, so don't feel too bad. Wanting a new (or just different) word for god doesn't have anything to do with fear; it is all about the desire to get away from the social metaphors and ideas that have been built up around the word God, that don't have much to do with what some of us actually mean when we say god. I share the desire to not have to explain that I am not talking about a bearded man with suspiciously human emotions when I say god. I think at least 90% of the dead end arguments in this forum would be nullified if god didn't have to be a personal judeo-christian white robe wearing anthropomorphic deity in so many people's minds.

[Original Poster]

The word God just carries a lot of connotations and associations with it that I don't like because of whar xaqaria said, the word has a specific place in our society for most people to mean some sort of separate, domineering persona. But juroara, maybe you can help me get over my dislike of the masculine overtone of our creator by explaining it better. Yes, I know the universe contains both male and female parts. You got into obviously symbology but I still don't understand how we are the female side of God, we have both male and female parts, and so does It. I mean, I don't know about you but I'm about 50% male, 50% female. Biologically, 100% male but psychologically I'm completely split. So is God, containing equal parts of both energy.

[The Enterer]

I agree, 'God' has too much baggage. Haul that word out and you're in for a million straw man arguments.

[ClouD]

Don't speak.

[Universal Mind]

This is a list of the most common names people were given in 2007. It should give you a lot to choose from for God's new name. I noticed that the female name Jennifer is nothing like it once was. It is by far the most common name for women in my generation, but I couldn't even find it on the 2007 list. So perhaps you could make God's new name Jennifer? http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/babynames/

[Original Poster]

You are so retarded.

[Universal Mind]

You are so retarded. Well if my help isn't appreciated when I try to help you come up with a new name for the infinite magician in the sky, then good luck with the usual Zeus and Vishnu and same old same old.

[sephiroth clock]

There are already a lot of names of god. Each name invokes different aspects of god. Brahma, Jehovah, there are a ton... all the names for god are sacred sounds. A sacred sound vibrates your body in a specific way. Aum raises energy from around your navel area to your third eye. Just try it and put your hands as you make each sound, ahh uhh ohh mmmm. Aum or AHhh, is a very common sound in gods name. It is to raise your energy to cosmic consciousness. The english word god creates materialism. It sends energy downwards to lower chakras. Very gutteral But that being said, each name of god has a specific use. So maybe if your trying to get material things? Jehovah is for militant purposes. Using god to win holy wars etc. People like to argue in english because our words have such strange vibration connotations. Like "tranquil" means calm, but it sounds like a train-wreck. Sanskrit is written so that each vibration portrays the meaning of a word. So a lot of sanksrit names for god are good ones to use.

[NeoSioType]

Why not call him Dog, Odg, Ogd, Gdo, or Dgo?

[Marvo]

Johnny Bravo?

[Original Poster]

Well if my help isn't appreciated when I try to help you come up with a new name for the infinite magician in the sky, then good luck with the usual Zeus and Vishnu and same old same old. A symbol is something with conscious and unconscious associations with other things. The idea of this whole topic is find a symbol that encompasses the totality of awareness and creation within its meaning. Jennifer fails at this task.

[Universal Mind]

Jennifer fails at this task. Maybe Brahman is a cross dresser and now prefers to be called Jennifer. Shit, I don't know. I guess there is only so much an atheist can do for this thread. I still love the concept you are talking about, and my favorite terms for it are Universal Mind, Brahman, and the Tao.

[The Enterer]

Maybe Brahman is a cross dresser and now prefers to be called Jennifer. Shit, I don't know. There is only so much an atheist can do for this thread. I've got to ask - As such a dogmatic athiest, why would you chose to call yourself 'Universal Mind'? Is it just irony?