Originally Posted by Photolysis
There's no need for simple belief. Science has plenty of evidence that it does. In order to read this for instance, electro-chemical reactions in my brain caused other chemical reactions in my CNS and muscles, giving my muscles kinetic energy and G.P.E to type on the keyboard, converting them back in to electrical signals which were sent to the DV server as a combination of electrons and photons, written as magnetic dipoles on the HDD. The process repeates in reverse, and the photons from the display cause a chemical reaction in your retina, causing a nerve impulse to be sent which is interpretted by your brain.
The process then repeats.
Look how many ways energy was transferred from one form to another just to read a paragraph of text from the internet on a screen!
Ditto; scientific evidence in the form of particle accelerators, as predicted by E=mc^2
Belief is not simple, belief is based upon experience: experiencing evidence as it transfers, experiencing life. I believe that energy transfers because I've read it, I believe that matter is condensed enery because I've read it. Not just read it, this idea has been validated by the world in front of me. I never believe anything I can't validate with the reality in front of me. There is always a reality that supercedes all of your beliefs and knowledge. The only way to experience it as it truly is, is to give up judging reality and letting it exist as it is, without words or categories.
You're argument demonstrates you need to read something in a science book in order to believe it exists.
Complete non sequitur. How you get this I have no idea. Reason and evidence?
Also bearing in mind that science has evidence to suggest that imagination (like many other brain functions) is due to electro-chemical changes in the brain in a complex way. "Imagination" is a function of energy, and an abstract concept. You can't "condense" it because it is not a physical item. It's an output of the brain.
You're making quite a few claims there without any evidence. Honestly, Scientists know diddly squat about the functions of the brain. Back in Athens they just decided one day to cast consciousess out of the picture and have since then been connecting the dots to try and prove the universe just exists as a non living entity.
If we have thoughts in our brain, based on neurons firing energy into each other, then doesn't that mean that the energy consists of information, as in ideas and concepts that are not material yet, but are somehow encoded in the energy our brain transfers.
Is it really so far fetched? How can airwaves, made up only of energy, send text messages between phones? Has it every struck you as odd that information encoded in airwaves are constantly just bouncing around and around? How can 30,000 songs and 500 movies fit on my computer?
Pseudo-scientific nonsense. There is no such thing as "positive energy", this is the kind of terminology thrown around by people who go on about clairvoyancy, crystal healing, and other such crap.
Unless you want to provide a reason and evidence for your explanation?
Thus far I only have what I've read. I don't necessarily read modern day scholars. I prefer the older scholars that believed the entire universe existed within you. Those ones, I pay attention to, and they say positive energy transfers. And so far real life has only confirmed this. When you make eye contact with someone, you're sharing energy on a deeper level. it's like you're focusing you're energy. A smile is contagious, a frown is too.
And in any case, there is no reason to believe that this has any effect. Indeed studies on prayer - however you wish to define it - have shown that when patients don't know they are being prayed for, the outcomes are the same. Those that do know they are being prayed for actually fared worse. Source
Well that is a good addition to my information on the subject of energy transfer. It does not yet disprove the idea, because there are so many possibilities, but it is something to consider.
What a very bleak outlook on life.
Is it? When you make a decision, you must live with it for ever. SOoner or later, you must account for everything you have done, forgive yourself, and move on. Just because you've moved on does not mean the decision is erased, this world is what it is because of decisions. Existence has gone on forever already. It's already been going on for infinity. Everything it is as it is right now is the result of choices, whether well thought out or not. Everything changes, everything, whether you want it to or not. The past does not, and in the end the choices you make are the only real afterlife you'll get. Sure, you'll go to heaven or hell or above heaven or below hell or perhaps if you're really lucky you'll come back to the material world as a human being, but it changes. Your energy carries information, DNA being a stable, material root. Without a body, your energy and consciousness dissolves.
You have subtle bodies in other levels of existence, possibly, but who knows for certain?
Non sequitur. Existence is not dependant on perception. Things that are defined as being a perception (sound is an example) do require perception to be perceived. Your example is flawed; sounds require someone to hear them in order for them to be sounds. The same does not apply to reality.
Why not? Can you prove it does not apply to reality? Where is this reality you speak of!
EDIT: Timothy, that is not my argument. Why argument is that experience creates reality. Sure, you have concepts and conclusions, models a information in your head but that's not reality, just assets to help you deal with reality. Reality is what is in front of you, what you are experiencing. Everything else is imagination.
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