Thread: gay sheep in bible times: didn't they notice?

I dont hate anyone or anything. When i get into an arguement i fight it out till the bitter end, no matter the subject. You got a problem with that go F yourself.

No surrender niggas.

LOL LET'S FORGET OUR DIFFERENCES AND BE FRIENDS i

Originally Posted by rottingteeth

LOL LET'S FORGET OUR DIFFERENCES AND BE FRIENDS i

I hope you mean "friends"

oh no...Thief was banned...I never got a chance...to say I'm sorry...I was going to apologize for saying that he was (probably) raped by his uncle Ted, and for saying that I'd make him my loveslave and never use any lube, and that if the day came that I became king of the world I would promise to use a whole lot...+cries+

Originally Posted by rottingteeth

oh no...Thief was banned...I never got a chance...to say I'm sorry...I was going to apologize for saying that he was (probably) raped by his uncle Ted, and for saying that I'd make him my loveslave and never use any lube, and that if the day came that I became king of the world I would promise to use a whole lot...+cries+

Don't worry about it. You know it turned him on.

Originally Posted by rottingteeth

oh no...Thief was banned...I never got a chance...to say I'm sorry...I was going to apologize for saying that he was (probably) raped by his uncle Ted, and for saying that I'd make him my loveslave and never use any lube, and that if the day came that I became king of the world I would promise to use a whole lot...+cries+

Don't worry. I have a suspicious feeling that he is still around.....In Spirit.

Originally Posted by DeathInJune

Don't worry. I have a suspicious feeling that he is still around.....In Spirit.

Now that you say it, I do too.

He can always make an other account and come back anyways... First he was G-O-D, than Thief... What's next ? G-O-D was probably not his first and even if he's bann he can still read this right?

Lol. For the record, I have no problems with homosexuals doing whatever they want with each other. But I find all the gay hate hilarious, particularly because it seems to be counter-productive for a gay-hater. I mean, in the long run, if being homosexual is genetic and everyone just accepted gay people and let them do their thing, wouldn't they most likely wipe themselves off the planet? Or at least dwindle in numbers? If gay people were fucking themselves and not having their own babies, their genes should stop showing up in future generations right? The gay-hate that makes homosexuals get into heterosexual relationships out of fear and reproduce seems like it's pretty counterproductive to the "get rid of all gays" agenda.

This is all, of course, based on the assumptions that being gay is determined completely genetically and that there is a single dominant gay gene, as opposed to a recessive gene or a set of genes that all express themselves and cause homosexual feelings/tendencies when combined. Also this is assuming that testosterone levels in a mother's womb are determined genetically, and that is certainly not true as stress in the environment can dramatically affect that. In any case, it's an amusing thought exercise about the ultimate futility of gay-hating.

Originally Posted by l000needles

Lol. For the record, I have no problems with homosexuals doing whatever they want with each other. But I find all the gay hate hilarious, particularly because it seems to be counter-productive for a gay-hater. I mean, in the long run, if being homosexual is genetic and everyone just accepted gay people and let them do their thing, wouldn't they most likely wipe themselves off the planet? Or at least dwindle in numbers? If gay people were fucking themselves and not having their own babies, their genes should stop showing up in future generations right? The gay-hate that makes homosexuals get into heterosexual relationships out of fear and reproduce seems like it's pretty counterproductive to the "get rid of all gays" agenda.

This is all, of course, based on the assumptions that being gay is determined completely genetically and that there is a single dominant gay gene, as opposed to a recessive gene or a set of genes that all express themselves and cause homosexual feelings/tendencies when combined. Also this is assuming that testosterone levels in a mother's womb are determined genetically, and that is certainly not true as stress in the environment can dramatically affect that. In any case, it's an amusing thought exercise about the ultimate futility of gay-hating.

Yes, this is all, of course based on that assumption because I am pretty sure that its nothing more than an assumption. I don't think there's any gene telling you what you like and what you like not. My dad likes hot dogs, I don't. My mom likes mushrooms, I don't. I'm sure that if my dad had some sort of fetish, I wouldn't have it or maybe not that one in specific.

It's pretty funny when people use the "homosexuality isn't natural" argument, and then backpeddle when you point out how natural it is. "Well, just because it's natural doesn't mean we should do it." The initial argument wasn't whether or not we should do it, that's a whole different thing. The argument was that it's not natural, which it certainly is.

But the follow up is always "Well, animals do a lot of things that aren't acceptable for humans" which is true enough, but there are also a lot of things that animals do that are JUST as acceptable for humans to do.

Homosexuality is not always used to simply assert dominance. Male penguins have been known to remain in long term pairings and even raising baby penguins together, despite being presented with suitable female partners. Male dolphins form long-lasting partnerships together that consist of much ecstatic, affectionate sexual play. Some sheep will become distraught if separated from their same-sex partners that suggests something more than the assertion of dominance.

So among all animals there is a spectrum of sexuality. The more advanced species, including humans, seem to have developed many uses for it beyond the simple biological urge to reproduce.

+appluads+ probably the best reply yet.

While there is a reason why the entire population cannot become homosexual and exist very long,
heterosexuals are just as natural as homosexuals, except the homosexuals cannot pass any generations on.

That reminds me of another common argument some people use against gay people. "If everyone were gay..." yadda yadda yadda

I always stop them there to point out that there has never been a time when EVERYONE was gay, not even close to it. There might also be problems if everyone were under four feet tall, but that's probably never going to happen.

The most generous estimates of the homosexual population are anywhere from 10 to 15 per cent. When it gets closer to 50 per cent, then I might start to worry. I can safely say that barring any unforseen genetic experiments gone awry, this will probably not happen either.

I think if the two gay penguins can be happy together... steal eggs from other couples.... finally hatch an egg... blah blah if penguins except homosexual behavior we all should. ORRRR maybe im drunk

"Since the chick arrived they are behaving in the same way as one would expect a heterosexual couple to do. Both happy fathers are now diligently handling the everyday care ... of their adopted offspring," the zoo said.

Three pairs of male penguins had been seen attempting to mate with each other and trying to hatch offspring from stones.

"Homosexuality is nothing unusual among animals," the zoo said. "Sex and coupling up in our world do not necessarily have anything to do with reproduction."

Originally Posted by CorpseGroom

It's pretty funny when people use the "homosexuality isn't natural" argument, and then backpeddle when you point out how natural it is. "Well, just because it's natural doesn't mean we should do it." The initial argument wasn't whether or not we should do it, that's a whole different thing. The argument was that it's not natural, which it certainly is.

But the follow up is always "Well, animals do a lot of things that aren't acceptable for humans" which is true enough, but there are also a lot of things that animals do that are JUST as acceptable for humans to do.

Homosexuality is not always used to simply assert dominance. Male penguins have been known to remain in long term pairings and even raising baby penguins together, despite being presented with suitable female partners. Male dolphins form long-lasting partnerships together that consist of much ecstatic, affectionate sexual play. Some sheep will become distraught if separated from their same-sex partners that suggests something more than the assertion of dominance.

So among all animals there is a spectrum of sexuality. The more advanced species, including humans, seem to have developed many uses for it beyond the simple biological urge to reproduce.

Gender in animals is sometimes hard to distinguish and according to scientific research, only humans and dolphins have sex for pleasure, therefore I'm pretty sure the other animals are not doing it because they are sexually attracted to same sex. It's probably something else. I mean, just imagine human females and males looked the same and we wouldn't have sex for fun, only for reproduction, then I don't think anyone would be homosexual (or heterosexual that is)... Being gay for an animal would be pretty much like someone liking water better than melted ice.

However, animals don't just engage in sexual activity for pleasure. Bonobos monkeys, for instance, may have sex for pleasure (likely since they are close relatives of humans) but their well-documented female-on-female sexuality apparently helps to form social bonds.

To us, some animals look the same, but to them there is no mistaking. (Kind of like how Asian people sometimes look confusingly similar to non-Asians.)

While there are a undoubtedly a few instances of "mistaken identity", the confirmed, observable instances of homosexuality occur rather regularly and across nearly every species of animal. Sexuality obviously isn't limited to pleasure or the mere desire to reproduce.

A bit more information:

an interesting National Geographic segment about homosexuality and bisexuality in animals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlTA...e=channel_page

interesting article on the variety of ways homosexuality is used by various species, not all of which have to do with pleasure.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

I found this particularly striking.

The most well-known homosexual animal is the dwarf chimpanzee, one of humanity's closes relatives. The entire species is bisexual. Sex plays an conspicuous role in all their activities and takes the focus away from violence, which is the most typical method of solving conflicts among primates and many other animals.

So far, with our limited knowledge, homosexuality has been observed in 1,500 animal species. I'm willing to guess that more than two species probably get some pleasure out of it.

Not that it really maters anymore, since this thread is nearly two months old, but good old thief never really did answer UM's challenge. That guy really pissed me off, what an unthinking moron....