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      Flying Spaghetti Monster

      http://www.venganza.org/

      Anyone here a believer? I personally find it ridiculous but whatever I guess some people just want to worship a giant flying plate of spaghetti.

      Post what you think about it.

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      It's a statement. A mockery. A parody. Nothing truly believed.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

      The Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) is the deity of the parody religion[1][2] "The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster".[3] It was created in 2005 by Bobby Henderson as a satirical protest to the decision by the Kansas State Board of Education to require the teaching of intelligent design as an alternative to biological evolution in public schools. Since the intelligent design movement used ambiguous references to an unspecified "Intelligent Designer" to avoid court rulings prohibiting the teaching of creationism as a science, this presumably left open the possibility that any imaginable thing could fill that role.

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      The Church of the FSM is purely satire. It's pointing out the ridiculousness of religion. I believe it was started because of a school board vote over having intelligent design taught in schools.

      If intelligent design was to be taught, so then would FSMism be taught. I really cannot believe anyone thinks that they are for real.

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      Yeah, I've known people who are part of the church and actually practice the cremony. But I'm almost positive thar even to them it's still just humor. The more closely the doctrine is observed the more elaborate the joke, I suppose.
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      HOW DARE YOU ALL INSULT MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS IN SUCH A WAY!?!?! I'll have you know that the church of the flying spaghetti monster, ramen, is a completely valid and appropriate religion. I don't know why I even come to this section anymore, its just a bunch of people trying to ruin my religion for everyone.

      I mean fettucini alfredo, chill the hell out everyone. The flying spaghetti monster doesn't care what you think about him, still you're all being unnecessarily hateful to what its essentially the noodley appendaged incarnation of ultimate good.

      I'm just saying back off the FSM bashing guys, we don't say hurtful things about your ability to practice your faith or lack thereof, show us the same respect.

      Ramen.

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      Sorry, but the Jedi church is the only true religion. The rest of you are going to hell.


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      Quote Originally Posted by warhammer View Post
      http://www.venganza.org/

      Anyone here a believer? I personally find it ridiculous but whatever I guess some people just want to worship a giant flying plate of spaghetti.

      Post what you think about it.
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      Maybe a large number of, especially the fundamental arguments, do. But to say every argument is just silly.
      I'm willing to agree, but I want evidence; give me an example.

      Until then; all of them do. If a counterexample should arise; most.
      Not really. I could make a many arguments for God that have no connection to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. What is more important is the fact that it is naive to pose any argument against God at all. This is more of a deep spiritual understanding rather than stemming from how it appears religiously.

      At some point, the mind has to admit it knows nothing and collapse. The sovereignty belongs to the Father, not to the ego.
      But that is exactly my point. Any argument for the existence of God makes no claims about which God. The argument always hinges on some quality of God and that quality can always be attributed just as easily to the FSM as, say, the Christian God.

      Unless you give me an example otherwise.
      No one, not a single person on the face of the earth or anywhere in the universe for that matter has

      1. witnessed
      2. communicated
      3. or became ONE

      with the FSM

      religion is first and always based on the first hand experiences of human beings. The FSM is made up. No one experienced him.

      God however is still experienced first hand to this day
      And considering these people experience hundreds of mutually contradictory 'Gods', the entire thing must just be a delusion.

      Hence it would be just as easy to do it with the FSM.

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      As said before it was created because of MY state's State Board of Education....I'm glad it was made
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      Once I thought I was dream and I tried to run though a wall... not very pleasant experience. Yes I have seen people do that many times.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      But that is exactly my point. Any argument for the existence of God makes no claims about which God. The argument always hinges on some quality of God and that quality can always be attributed just as easily to the FSM as, say, the Christian God.
      I guess the Christian God is the one caught up in typical argument, but that is mainly due to skeptical intellectualization over specifics and confusing both dogma and genuine spiritual truth, while attempting to discern a logical system. The Flying Spaghetti Monster critique demonstrates the mans' naivete to spiritual truth and the inability to recognize it within religious expression.

      Let's talk about the mystical God, which has often been taught to be the essence of all the major religions.

      • God is present within all things and beyond. God represents the Absolute Truth or Divine Reality and is beyond all time and space; not subject to it's limitations. This defines God as Omnipotent and Omnipresent.

      This is only the first point. How does this relate to a Flying Spaghetti Monster? You might say because it cannot be proven. But that is also an ignorance. Since when do you have to prove the above point, and why would that be necessary? In the end, all that is happening is that man is seeking the truth but within the limitations of his own definitions, flaws and presumptions. This is where the saying "Empty the mind" comes in, because that is all that is required to know the Truth.
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