Thread: The Nature of Satan

Originally Posted by Noogah

Invader, I don't want to sound like a nitwit, but I haven't the slightest what you're going on about. Either we're talking about two different things, or I'm just not following.

Earlier I said something about Satan that you claimed was not out of the
bible (the bit about Satan prostrating, otherwise known as bowing, before
Adam). You were correct. That piece of the story came out of the Muslim's
holy book, the Koran, and I honestly thought it was in the bible as well. Alas,
I'm not terribly familiar with either of these texts, but enough so that I can
participate in the discussion.

Originally Posted by Noogah

MORE peace does not equal absolute peace, which will never be accomplished by him.

"More peace" may be enough to unite humanity under one flag in a way that
will allow them to manage themselves effectively.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Sorry, I didn't mean you specifically, I mean mankind as a whole. Would you consider it peaceful if all countries co-existed without war, and without debt? Yes, you would. Or at least, I should think you would.

But spiritual peace could never be achieved that way. Sin would still exist, and so would bitterness, anger, hate, etc.

Ah ah ah, the word was "perfect", not "peaceful". I'm not denying what I
think would be peaceful, but prior to this you claimed to know what I (or
rather humanity) thought was perfect.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Not that specific verse, of course. The information we have is collectively gathered from bits on him scattered throughout the Bible. But, if God is his absolute adversary, then so are Christians, and not mankind. Seems a fair theory to me, anyways.

Though humanity would still be the creation of his adversary in this case,
and with expectations of God to rise to the challenge and follow the divine
word. That's why temptation, as a religious concept, applies to all people.
It's a means of pulling them away from the God-being.

Originally Posted by Noogah

Come now! You know better then that, don't you???

That quote was nevertheless accurate.
Right, right, off topic.

Originally Posted by Noogah

I only thought discussing his nature would be interesting.

If it gives you another perspective, it should be interesting, yes.

Originally Posted by grasshoppa

What is the point in discussing the nature non-existant figures?

Whether or not these things exist is besides the point. It's being discussed
for what it represents: Authority, rebellion, humanity's capacity for peace (or
lack thereof) and whether or not humanity would be better off being
managed by this higher power, vs being managed by ourselves (possibly with
the aid of this rebellious character). Because of what Satan represents, he
exists as a philosophical concept as well as a theological one.



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