Thread: Marijuana + Wbtb

Originally Posted by SKA

1. I am not encouraging anyone to do Marijuana: I am merely defending my right to do so and my integrety against those that constantly want to protest against the use of Marijuana.

2. If someone decides to start smoking Marijuana; It is this person's OWN decision and responsibility. Smoking weed isn't healthy but I won't lie to anyone about it's effects; it's practically harmless so the war against Marijuana as some kind of ''Dangerious drug'' is rediculious. If your little brother stumbled across this he wouldn't be motivated more to do Marijuana than otherwise. Wether or not someone will decide to smoke Marijuana is a very individual Choice; Someone who didn't plan on smoking Marijuana to begin with, or at least didn't have an open Mind to it allready, certainly wouldn't suddenly think:''Hey maybe I should give Marijuana a try'' after reading this Topic.

3. I don't smoke that much really. I used to when I made up that Signature actually. I do smoke occasionally. However I became so annoyed with the ''I don't smoke so I'm pure and better''-additude I wanted it to be clear not to bring that nonsense to me. When other's wont stop Judging me, I tend to Judge them in return: Not that I have the need to judge people at all: I just want them to know how annoying it is to be judged like that all the time.

4. Everyone's Tolerance is Different, everyone puts different amounts of weed in their Joints and every person reacts differently to Marijuana. I know this very well. People that want to participate in this should decide for themselves how much to smoke, since they know best.

Now I hope that's all Clear, cuz I didn't make this Topic to discuss the Ethics of Marijuana. That's been done way too many times before allready. It doesn't lead to anything but alot of annoyance and animosity around here.
Let us focus on using Marijuana to assist in WILD + WBTB.

Right now I don't have any weed anymore and I don't plan buying weed anytime soon. Besides: First I've got to find out wat is the best time to wake up to do WILD+WBTB and smoke a Joint.
If you people will continue experimenting and posting your results (also negative results) that would be most helpfull and hopefully get this Topic back on track.[/b]

1. Really didn't accuse you of encouraging anyone to.


2. You still don't get it.

The original person that complained said "What if a child or someone else stumbled across this" Your reply was all about how Marijuana was safe. Who cares if its safe!?!? I wouldn't want any child reading about it.

It was a censorship thing. No matter what your views are, I wouldn't want any child to read about Marijuana. Children are very influenced. Even beyond that, its not just influencing them to do it. Porno is potentially harmless, doesn't "kill" anyone, but would It be cool for someone to post a bunch of porno pics? Or should I just be like, yea! Screw it if theres porno on TV let him watch it- Its his 10 year old decision! Marijuana is just not something for children to read about. However there doesn't seem to be alot of children here, so its "safe" I guess you could say. Anyone else should be able to make their own decision, yes. End of story here.


3. Thats totally cool, I don't judge you on if you do or don't smoke and how much. But trying to keep people from bringing that "nonsense" to you? Could have easily found a better way- Thats just flat out ignorance at it's best. And like you and I both said, they judge you, you stoop to there level and judge/make lude comments to something that may not even exist here. "He wont stop calling me names, so I called him some back"


4. Your basically just repeating what I said....I was just confused, because in your opening post you made it clear you wanted people to tell you how many joints they smoked as if to use that as a judge/marker of some sort in this experiment. Obviously that would be flawed in helping you reach the knowledge your looking for.


I think everythings clear thats going to be clear.


Good luck with the experiment.

About time I hear of someone else getting good effects from marijuana

First of all, lemme just say, I'm with the "for" gang, I smoked the sweet leaf each and every day of my life for the last almost 20 years, here's my first tattoo for Jebus' sake:

My Dad has the same tat in the same place (chest) and he lived just outside of Amsterdam for a few years, so we're "qualified" as experts. Heh... I've often said that I have a PHD in THC.

I quit, cold turkey as it were (Homer is right, not as delicious as it sounds&#33 roundabout 5-6 weeks ago. Tobacco too. I did get the bonus dream increase but not like I was hoping for. My Dad quit "smoking" over a year ago but now he uses a Volcano (vaporizer) so he's still getting high, I've quit altogether. He drinks beer. Quite a lot actually, but he dreams quite frequently, has had 4-5 lucids so far. (I'm his guide). So, it seems to me that it's the smoking that is the dream-killer. When I smoked I almost NEVER recalled my dreams, of course I wasn't religious with my journal or anything either, now I am. My point is just that he's still getting THC (daily) AND dreaming too, but not smoking. Yes, would-be arguers, there IS a difference.

Just my ¢2 on the whole "to smoke or not to smoke" thing. Hat's off to SKA, lucky bastard lives in my favorite place on earth. The most vivid dreams I ever have are of Amsterdam, I think it has something to do with being far, far away from home, same in my mind.

My wife and have smoked regularly for over 30 years. We rarely recall our dreams unless we have not smoked. I really want to have lucid dreams so I've decided I will have to stop smoking.

On the other hand, I think it's possible that for someone who does NOT usually smoke pot and still feels the high as a novelty, it could very well have a different effect.

@ Alprazolam:

About my signature: I wasn't speaking to you ''bringing that nonsense to me''. I was speaking in general. Many people do bring that bullshit to me and I was explaining to you that that was the reason I put that ''Obnoxious'' part in my signature.

And about the Children who might read this Marijuana Post:
I DID get it: I just disagree. You see Porno is unsuitable to display in the presence of Children since they do not yet have a sexual awareness: Porno is off course NOT going to give children a realistic view of Sexuality. I can see how Children would be harmed and possibly Sexually Disturbed when they are sexually miseducated by Porno instead of Properly Sexually educated by parents and school. This can lead to sexual pervesion, a distorted view of sexuality and a disturbed sexual development and behaviour when they grow up.

I don't see how you place Marijuana in the same League of Indecency as Porno. Where I disagree is: Marijuana isn't ''Improper''. Nor does it disturb or miseducate kids to do things that are immoral and irresponsible. Weed is just a plant which's Flowering Buds make people high when they smoke them; I seriously don't see how smoking Marijuana around Children or Speaking of Marijuana around children is gunna do them any harm. The Idea that Marijuana is Improper and Miseducating like Porno can be is in my eyes rediculous. This Idea is only inserted into public opinion by ''Political Correctness''. I certainly don't need Politics and Public Opinion to tell me what's proper and what's improper. I'm defenitely not a great fan of Political Correctness at all, cuz I have Mind of my own with values and morals of my own. They are quite different than most people's views.

And while I enjoy a good, civilised Discussion like this: Can we please drop the ethical Question and proceed with the experiment?

If any Cannabis smoker here can actually TRY this and post the results, and I've seen quite a few of you enthusiastic about this experiment, that would be sweet. It would give a better view of this Experiment's effectiveness. Don't just post your results like this: Lucid / Not Lucid. But just post what you experienced after smoking marijuana and going back to sleep. Look out for any possible changes in consciousness and experience in your Dreams to follow.

Don't we all want to see some results?

"can't we all just hit a bong?" LOL!!!

Is there something wrong with educating kids about the herb?

And how many percent of Dream Views are even under 13 years of age? like 2%, maybe less who even come to this part of the forum? This is the internet bud, were not the ones harming them. They're gonna hear the word 'MARIJUANA" sooner or later in life...might as well teach them the truth before they're slandered with lies.

Originally Posted by NightmareOnElmStreet

Is there something wrong with educating kids about the herb?

And how many percent of Dream Views are even under 13 years of age? like 2%, maybe less who even come to this part of the forum? This is the internet bud, were not the ones harming them. They're gonna hear the word 'MARIJUANA" sooner or later in life...might as well teach them the truth before they're slandered with lies.[/b]

Yeah exactly: I'd rather see that Kids learn about Marijuana reading posts like these than that they learn about Marijuana from a street Dealer who's interrested in making money by selling and encouraging them to do weed.

Here the dicision to smoke weed isn't forced. I think all parents would do good educating their kids on the whole Topic of drugs before someone else with bad intent does. Same for Sexuality and other sensative subjects.

I'm not gunna smoke Cannabis in the next couple of days so if anyone here has some weed left: I suggest they use it for a more Experimental end in the field of 'Lucid Dream science' instead of just smoking it to relax and dream away: Done that way often enough right?

Allright. I had an Idea:

What about smoking Hash for this experiment instead?
Where weed tends to overwhelm you a little making you a bit dizzy, sleepy and is a somehwat more "Mindblowing", Hash tends to have a more, Calming, Meditative and Alertness-increasing effect which is much more managable.

Maybe I'll try this later when I get hash. Any one else want to try this with Hash? I hope you people can get some good Hash. Let me know.

yea i smoked a lot over winter break, litterly every day. when i got back to school i could remember my dreams more vividly and actually started to have lucis dreams.

so i deffinetely agree with you on this one

Originally Posted by SKA

Allright. I had an Idea:

What about smoking Hash for this experiment instead?
Where weed tends to overwhelm you a little making you a bit dizzy, sleepy and is a somehwat more "Mindblowing", Hash tends to have a more, Calming, Meditative and Alertness-increasing effect which is much more managable.

Maybe I'll try this later when I get hash. Any one else want to try this with Hash? I hope you people can get some good Hash. Let me know.[/b]

Hmm. First off, about the topic, I'm so in.. When I can afford to upgrade my stash.

And second of all, Hash-IMO, is not Alertness-increasing, Hash for me makes me drowzy, dizzy and hungry.
I get calmed and I get relaxed as hell.

But about the alertness-increasing effect, I can't say I agree. Weed makes me Alert, more happy, giggly and gives a more Euphoric state of mind.

Anyhow, for this kind of experiment I'd like to try both weed and hasch, so count me in SKA. I'll just have to get some when I can.

//wuollet

So what were the results of this experiment?


I wonder how it would work with me...I'm probably the only person on the planet who has a very hard time falling asleep if I'm pretty stoned.

im going to try this out tonight since im bored and have some bud left. and all you damn stoners keep forgetting lol

i only have about 3 bowls left though. hitting that out of my 2 foot bong gets me nice and baked i'll have no trouble falling asleep around 1 or 1:30 am. then i'll set my alarm clock for 6 or 7. TRY to wake up if i'll be able to and post on this thread again to ensure im not dreaming ;P

and i'll tell you how it goes after that.

peace and luv

smoked 2 bowls and went to sleep at 1:30. had a very deep and good sleep but didn't have more than a minute of dreams. unfortunatly I couldn't do the WBTB because i set my alarm for pm instead of am...woops!! lol anyway i'll keep trying this until i get it right.

instead of talking about smoking the marijuana , can we get back to the original plan? SKA how did it go? did it work?

I haven't continued experimenting with this. This topic's quite old actually.
I rarely feel like smoking before WBTB because strangely enough it awakens my mind somewhat. and perhaps somehwta too much. But maybe I should give this a second try.

I'm glad I read this topic because I've always been sad about the fact that I can't smoke and still have dreams. Tonight though I WILL try this so any interested in hearing the results should check back here tomorrow.

It didn't work for me. I did have some dreams but not very vivid and sort of hard to recall

idk i seem to have dreams a lot when im high.

Some of them involve getting high too or getting copious amounts of that sticky icky.

My contribution to this experiment:

- I'm very easy sleeper and it's very easy to awake me up.
- When I use marihuana it's hard to me to fall asleep.
- Using it I have less dream recall.


Sorry on my English.

i sleep fairly well, it might take a minute to wake me though.
when i smoke pot im out like a light.
absolutely zero dream recall the next morning which is hardly surprising given the damaging effects to ur memory that marijuana has.
ever since i started smoking pot my memory is shot to shit, now that im sober im scared my memory is gone for good.

No don't worry about that timeless. All mental effects of weed are only temporary and will gradually fade away when you stop smoking.

And wuollet. If you ever find yourself across the north-western border of your country finding hasheesh and weed, and really good stuff too, won't be a problem. Maybe travel further westwards towards the coast and you might run into me smoking some high herbs.

Now I haven't updated this thread in a long long time so I'm willing to resume this experiment now that my dreamrecall has increased along with the frequency of my LDs.
I'll be doing it with hash.

Anyone who's in for it give it a try and report back the results. Any results.
PS: You don't have to smoke a joint till you are seeing stars. You could smoke a joint easily and when you feel the effect is there, but when you're still not completely blazed, you can just put down the joint and go back to sleep. You'll wake up to a delicious surprise in your ashtray too

I personally doubt that marijuana would help with my dream recall. I tend to experience some temporary memory loss when I smoke which i believe would affect my dream recall.

Actually this Topic is very helpfull as it goes to show how Diverse the effects of Cannabis and Hasheesh are on different people.

Now a couple of months ago I stopped smoking weed and started smoking good quality Hash instead; I found that my Dreams have since gotten an extra level of low awareness to them. My recall became better and in the times I would stop smoking, if even for only 3 to 4 days, I experience an enormous rebound.

So for the type of high and the type of sleep/dreams it brings, for me Hash is ideal.
Now my new experiment involves Hash and Coffee. I will post it's results in the "combining Depressants with Stimulants"-Topic elsewhere in these forums.
The Idea is to do a series of succeeding experiments with increasing/decreasing amounts of Coffee/Hash depending on the results of the previous experiment.

Let's say I start with 1 medium strength hash-joint and one Cup of Coffee right before sleep:
If the results are that I still sleep too Deep, then the following night I will try smoking 1 Hash-joint and drinking 2 cups of coffee right before sleep. And this way trying to find the right balance between sleepyness (Hash) and Wakefullness (Coffee).

Anyone else interrested in participating in this specific experiment?
Let me know.

PS: I think I'll ask for the "Combining Stimulants and Depressants"-Topic to be moved to this board.

Continue to report back people.