Thread: Igniting Lucidity Technique~ILT

Hello oneironaughts. This is an easy and Very effective technique that I've been holding because of the generic copying people have been doing lately. You know, find some tech, label a new name on it and says it works. Anyways, I thought I would care to elaborate on a technique that works every time (not exaggerating) for me and I assume it will do for you. This technique has not been tested on anyone (I actually thought of just passing it to my bloodline because of the conflicts in the past). Also this will be the last tech posted by "Malac". Further techs will be created by the organization I've planned to create.

Igniting Lucidity~ILT

Preparation
This doesn't really matter much, as long as you slept earlier and sure that you can go in the REM process as soon as you go asleep, then you've completed preparation. I do advise that you've had at least 4-5 hours of sleep earlier though. Basically what I'm saying is that you need to WBTB or do this when you Nap(anytime in the 9 hours after you slept).


Technique
Simple. Let me explain. Have you ever tried a WILD or just tried to have normal sleep but you couldn't because those thoughts in your head couldn't shut the hell up? Or have you've ever heard someone tell you that if you want to DILD, etc... that you gotta think and repeat the words "I want to Lucid Dream" or whatever mantra, because those words were that last words as a meaning to your subconscious before you slept? Again, those annoying words that drift you off so far from your goal from thinking of " I will realize I'm dreaming" to imagining your self on some space pirate adventure in Iceland, making you soo far from the subject? I mean heh, the more you resist them thoughts, the more annoyed you get huh? Or you succeed in making them vanish but forget Lding all together lol.


Well this is what I, Ladys and Gentleman, found out a month ago from theorizing to doing it! If you actually work with these thoughts, or let me put this in another way, if you were to influence these annoying (whatever you interpret them) thoughts into Lucid dreaming thoughts, you can hit an LD from the very start of a dream, thus making it a WILD, or getting a DILD everytime!!!

Now, do I have your attention yet? You might be wondering, just how do I do that? These subconscious automatic thoughts? This inner voice. Well, I'll tell you just how from my perspective. In a metaphor, it's like giving a nudge(ignite) on a marble thats on the edge of a slope. Once doing that, it rolls all on its on downhill. Yes it might go different directions slightly but it's still going "downhill". Now for simple steps that I'm sure you want.
>Summarization of steps 1 and 2 in understandable terms <

Basically be the observant, while letting your thoughts freely go wild, but "will" the topic of lucid dreaming to slip in the random thoughts to push it the right direction. Just lightly conceptually "insert" the topic of lding in the gibberish. I find that its waay easier if your mind is clear. Do some tweaking around if you have to but eventually you'll find out what I mean. I find that you should just normally go to sleep but "multi-task" slightly for a moment to influence these thoughts, then go on to sleep again without worrying, as long as your inner voice is talking about lucid dreaming with no effort from you, then it will be successful.Difficult to explain in words but what I've said should be right. When you feel that lucid dreaming is being automatically brought up as a topic by your subconscious or whatever is talking, then continue to just listen as you would with the random thoughts( you'll have to anyways since its the only thing you're thinking of) and you'll asleep soon.Two things will happen.
Either:

1. You'll hear those thoughts in your head saying stuff like "am i dreaming" automatically and you'll have a WILD or
2. You'll be in a DILD from or near the beginning.

The whole process takes as long as it takes for you to goto sleep because all you're pretty much doing is altering that inner voice to what "you" want it to be. Either if it's gibberish or talking about lucid dreaming, there's still no effort on your part for sleep to take any longer then it did when that inner voice spoke nonsense, just now it's talking about Lding.

You might get automated phrases such as "Lucid dreaming is cool" or "Lding is awesone" or some huge explanation about it, it can get very deep. I even get songs from time about Lding (yes they suck). Basically all you're doing is the same ol going to sleep routine but slightly for a moment adjust that inner voice for a sec or two and then continuing your sleep without having to think or worry about anything else as because the trap is set (The trap for Lds baby).

I have to say, for typing this up very late in at night (well morning) I think I explained it good enough. I'm sure you get it. I could only explain from my POV but hopefully later I can be more thorough on this technique if you're confused, as in every topic there are always those people who doesn't get it. The instructions of this were made on the spot because I haven't considered to make this a tutorial until now. So basically this is a draft/revision version huh? Hope those who try this have success and make variations based off this.

Tootos , I'm off to sleep and have LD sex tonight (just saw some hot chick on the net earlier)

Interesting. I'll try it next time I can't sleep.

Sounds easy, thanks!

Oh I get it, so you're taking it to advantage the fact that it's easy to get annoying thoughts? That's good thinking, nice post.

Clever technique ill try it, nice one

I see where your getting at, and i know exactly how ill do it
Im gonna try this technique out for the next week or so, still needa improve dream recall atm :S

Originally Posted by Muad'Dib 007

Interesting. I'll try it next time I can't sleep.

I did that. Ended up thinking about LD's for an hour. Pretty cool.

Very interesting,

tried this for the first time last night..

As i was going to sleep, my mind was a little clearer than usual (as it has been the past few days since i began chakra work) but i still tried to induce LD into the little bit of chatter that was there.

I also added one difference. Malac's grab technique with a twist.. As i was 'falling asleep' i generated scenes in my head and tried to interact with them (obviously kept failing of course ) but i eventually got to sleep after turning a couple of times.

The night was very interesting indeed, I remember dreaming about LD'ing a lot (something i've never done). I remember in the dream trying to get Lucid but i didnt actually realise i was in a dream at the time for in the dream i kept looking for dream signs so i could go lucid.

I woke this morning and tried to make sense of it all which took a few minutes as it had been such a strange night but clarity came to me eventually and here I am.

I'm going to look into this further and report back when I am done with my findings.

Wish me luck.

I did this last night, and I had a DILD after not having one for about the last month. Not completely sure whether it was the technique (since I just followed the advice and tried to "influence" my thoughts), but I'll try it again tonight and let you know. If it works again, I'd say we've found a winner. Thanks for the post.

Way to get it together Malac.

oh wow when'd you start posting again... dont worrie Im not gonna start anything. If anything congratz on posting it and not screwing us over again. Well I hope your organization/cult/ what ever goes well malac.

dude...actually makes a lot of sense. I must try it, TONIGHT!!

It sounds like a pretty simple tech, I like it. I've never tried it to often to think about lucid dreaming before sleep, because it tends to keep me awake, but maybe I could carefully make them into lucid dreaming thoughts, I think I will simple imagine being in a lucid dream.

Oh, and malac, I've become pretty good with tactile sensations lately, eh well the main thing I've practiced as of the past week has been visualisation, but it's quite fine tuned, even though not always stable, and not always what I want it to be. I could be wilding in a bit, my plan to do it was to protend to ride a bike, well visualising a path to ride on, and maybe imagine some music.

i tried this technique the last couple days when i wake up in the middle of the night and this morning i had my first ld

Originally Posted by randomdreamer

i tried this technique the last couple days when i wake up in the middle of the night and this morning i had my first ld

Gratz on your ld. Same goes for you PaleRider. This tech will work everytime once you do it right, which proves to be no challenge to master because its so simple

Hppy Early B-day JD

I tried this for my first time last night after not having a lucid dream for about a week, and I had two that night! They weren't even chained dreams either! I woke up from one lucid dream wrote it down and went back to bed and had another. I remembered both with great detail. Thanks a lot man

Originally Posted by burton_bean

I tried this for my first time last night after not having a lucid dream for about a week, and I had two that night! They weren't even chained dreams either! I woke up from one lucid dream wrote it down and went back to bed and had another. I remembered both with great detail. Thanks a lot man

How long did it take you to fall asleep? If we're trying to tune our brain to be tuned toward lucidity- what was your station like when you fell asleep?

Originally Posted by TalkingHead

How long did it take you to fall asleep? If we're trying to tune our brain to be tuned toward lucidity- what was your station like when you fell asleep?

It took me around 15 minutes to fall asleep, which is how long it usually takes me to fall asleep. All I did was turn the focus of one of my thoughts to lucid dreaming just as malac explained to do. Then I relaxed and let my sub-conscious do the rest, while it threw random things about lucid dreaming at me. It's very simple and you just have to believe that for it to work.

I tried your technique last night, and while I didn't have a LD, I can clearly see the impact of your technique on my dreams. I had dreams all night long that I remembered without any effort. It was the opposite of the normal way things happen for me. I literally had dreams within dreams. Its like the dreams are forcing themselves on me almost demanding to be remembered. Even now as I write this more dream details are popping into my mind. And all of the dreams were very complex, so much so I don't even know where to begin or how to begin writhing them down. I truly appreciate you sharing this amazing technique with us. I can't wait to try it again.

Wow, some time ago I had a similar idea to this, but I refrained from trying it, I was like "whatever, that won't work". I haven't managed to have a good LD for almost half a year now, going to give it a try tonight.

By the way, yesterday I read about your other technique called "Malac's Fast Grab", and I tried it last night. I haven't managed to get lucid but I had 2 'explosions' of very vivid HI and few mins later almost got pushed into a lucid dream because I managed to catch something with my dream hands (so 3- that's my personal record for amount of close calls durning one night). Thanks for providing us with those great techniques! - the reason I'm writing this here is because thread about MFG is closed xD!

ps. I hope bumping this thread will help other people as well

Interesting. Ill try it if I fail a FILD.

This makes sense, I'm gonna try it tonight and see how it goes

I really wander why this thread was moved to research. There are multiple statements concluding positive results.