Thread: Natural Lucidity Research

A friend of mine who is a natural actually has sleep-problems in some way.. her dreams are so intense that she has to go on medicine.

I have been having lucids since I can remember. I have always had vivid dreams everynight since I was little. I was and still am a deep thinker. I have always been creative and imaginative. I think if you have a big imagination then it comes naturally.

A lot of my natural lucids come from when I'm in danger. My body is desperate for help and I become aware. Or I realize the repetitive chasing has to be a dream. Running in and out of a house being chased for what seemed like about 3hrs kinda made me open my dream eyes and think.. I'm dreaming. :] lol

I used to get more lucids when younger than I do now. And they lasted longer.

so yeah

I think A LOT.. over analysing about everything. I look at everything with a question. All deep life and after death stuff.

I used to get nightmares when I was little. Repetative ones. Falling down holes and being chased. I still get chased a lot.

I am creative .. my room is covered in trippy Indian wall hangings, Alex Grey prints, painted canvasses, feathers & my window is coated in fur. lol love it
I'm very open minded.

I used to take acid and shrooms.. seeing what your brain is capable of fully when conscious helps open your eyes to what your mind can do.

Hard to explain .. I thought everyone had lucid dreams and what not.

Originally Posted by seeker28

I'm very introspective. I spend a lot of time thinking about how I think, what I think, and why I think that way. I pay close attention to my emotional reactions, my thoughts. Plus I'm just naturally curiose about things most people never bother to wonder about.

I think of and treat the waking world as if it were possibly a dream. As a child I was shy and akward and thus spent a lot of time alone. One of my favoite activities was to see how my internal thought effected the outside world. I'd repeat mantras so myself and observe the effects. I discovered (but was never able to verbalize) that my thoughts and emotions had real, reliable effects on the waking world. I often wondered if maybe I was in a coma somewhere having a dream. Or I would wonder if maybe god was asleep and I was a part of the vast, devine dream.

I "hallucinate" in waking life, and thus spend a lot of time trying to decide what "real" and what is not. I like to think that my supposed hallucinations are just bleed over from a different layer of reality that have little to no power in this layer. Thus, to blend in with society and not look like a freak I have to determine what is from this layer and what is from others. Then I do my best to ignore the bleed over and only react to this layer, at least in public. So I naturally spend a lot of time questioning the continuity of time, places, and the logic of things. I imagine this helps me be more aware of the illogical things, skips in time, and disjointed locations in dreams.

I consider reality to be much more complex, layered, and weird than most poeple. I mentioned this already. I think having an open mind helps me be more lucid.

I'm not convinced the dream world is just a creation of my mind in off mode. I've encountered some weird stuff that has lead me to believe it is possible that sometimes when I dream I go to a place that has reality independent of my mind.

I find it very interesting that we share the outlook of life as dream, however mildly or extremely we may differ in belief.

I'm curious as to if you have many lucid dreams, and the quality etc. of them.

As for hallucinations, I don't want to label you nor myself (nor anyone else for that), though I share similar experience with this. I find myself ignoring everything a lot of the time [not just what I see visually], and meditatatively watching 'my' actions.

That you are a natural and seem to have had very similar experiences to myself, is intruiging. I was wondering if anyone shared a close set of circumstances to my own, and whether those circumstances affected lucidity.

Originally Posted by Lunica

A lot of my natural lucids come from when I'm in danger. My body is desperate for help and I become aware. Or I realize the repetitive chasing has to be a dream. Running in and out of a house being chased for what seemed like about 3hrs kinda made me open my dream eyes and think.. I'm dreaming. :] lol

I used to get more lucids when younger than I do now. And they lasted longer.

This brings to mind another curiosity. I was wondering if anyone had 'very long' lucids.

As in, lucidity perhaps for more than a meager 10-40 minutes.

I've been quiet about expressing my length of lucidity in dreams, as a few people find it questionable as to how much truth it holds.

If anyone has had lucidity for any longer period of time, it'd be greatly appreciated if they could post here to any length about it.

Originally Posted by ClouD

This brings to mind another curiosity. I was wondering if anyone had 'very long' lucids.

As in, lucidity perhaps for more than a meager 10-40 minutes.

I've been quiet about expressing my length of lucidity in dreams, as a few people find it questionable as to how much truth it holds.

If anyone has had lucidity for any longer period of time, it'd be greatly appreciated if they could post here to any length about it.

My first/ish lucid where I gave myself a big flying lesson. I remember it cleary. It lasted for about 40mins-1hr it was very clear too. Haven't had one line that since.

Well, I don't normally time my dreams, but I have noticed some lasting 40 min to an hour and I feel confident that I had one last at least 2 and a half hours. Just happened to look at the clock before and after that day. I've most likely had many more long ones.

It is hard to know how long a dream lasts in "waking world time" because of time dialation in dreams, so unless, like AlexLou you happened to look at the clock shortly before the dream began and shortly after it ended how would you know??

That said, I have looked at a clock before and after many of my lucid dream and it is fairly normal for many of mine to last well over an hour. I wonder if this is because i routinely dream during non-REM sleep?? The longest LD I've ever noticed (and was able to closely time by looking at a clock) was just over 3 hours 15 minutes. Most of my LDs seem to last between 10 min and 45 min waking time.

However, if you are talking about dream time (which is notoriously different from waking time) I've had LDs that seem to last for days. In elementary school I had a dream (lucid) that seemed to last more than a month. When I woke up I was so surprised I hadn't slept for weeks. That is the longest seeming dream I remember.

Originally Posted by ClouD

I'm curious as to if you have many lucid dreams, and the quality etc. of them.

I have a lot of lucid dreams, when compared to the average DVer. I've been keeping a DJ for 153 days and in that time I've recorded 588 LDs. That is an average of just over 3.8 LDs per night. In that time I've gone a few days without remembering any LDs, but have not yet had a "dry spell."

As to the quality, I'm not quite sure what you mean. They are vivid with all 5 senses generally stronger than waking life. Often contemplate the symbology of this or that. Sometimes I'm "semi-lucid," meaning I have varing degrees of illogical thinking and behavior, accept illogical things in the dream, etc. Generally I don't try to change much in the dream, even when I am supremly aware it is all taking place in my mind and thus I could exert god-like control. But I do love to fly. Often I only realize I spent the whole dream floating to place to place rather than walking in retrospect.

I think the reason I don't man-handle the dream scape, DCs, etc is because I have a respect for dreams. If they do have a reality independent of me I don't want to go around mindlessly trashing the place. Plus I have SO MANY LDs I mostly try to just go along with the dream because I want to be sure my mind has enough chance to work out whatever internal maintenance and problems it needs to. Plus, after a while, grand adventure gets a bit dull.