Thread: If you really want a Lucid Dream...

That sounds really tiring. Why would you want to set your alarm for 7 if you're just going to WILD? Or did you mean go to sleep, wake up an hour later, then WILD?

ya m abit confused too

Sound like something I can do, will give this a try and post my results!

my advice would be to not try too hard. but the rest sounds reasonable.

i do see how this would work becus you deprive yourself of rem sleep and it needs to catch up. so in a way i guess the less sleep, probably the more vivid dreams but don't over do it ppl.

So when do you get the daily amount of sleep you need to maintain mental stability? Some people have schedules, you know?

AGHH i would be having LD's at work

hmm this may work for some people but in personal experience and due to mass forum scanning

depriving yourself of sleep so long is generally a bad way to enter a WILD, yes you have to be tired enough to allow yourself to sleep but you also need to be awake enough to stop your mind falling asleep before your physical body.

If you want to do this i reccomend going to sleep as usual, setting your alarm for approximately 4-5 hours after you predict you will fall to sleep and then when you wake up, try entering a WILD from that point, that seems to be getting the best responses from members. As i say though its personal opinion diffrent methods work better for diffrent people.

I've experience that before. Staying up until darn'd near sunrise and yes, it happened exactly as you advertised. Of course I wouldn't want to intentionally do that every night. But I know, it worked for me.

This doesn't sound very healthy.

thers nothing unhealthy about it if you control periods of sleep either prior or after it, although as i said a few posts back i dont think its the best way to use this method

Well, ok.

To all the negative comments, I was just providing this for frustrated beginners who have never had lucid dreams before. I always found this the easiest way to have LDs when I was just starting.

I know this is extreme, and of course this is unhealthy if done everyday, especially if you have job/school.


To clear things up for some people:
My main point is to stay up 5 or so hours after you normally go to sleep.
(If i go to bed at midnight, stay up to 5 or 6 am)
When I did this, I'd do this on a Saturday night since I had nothing to do on Sunday.
I set an alarm an hour after I go to sleep so I don't fall into a deep sleep and forget my instant dreams I get right as I go to bed.
So usually I'd wake up an hour later with a long lucid dream. I go write it down and then go to bed for reals after that.

It does sound a little ridiculous but it all honestly it works really well. Your body is so tired and your REM is firing so it's easy to just nod off right into a dream. I think also your body is less likely to wake up if there is too much excitement because of the over-tiredness.

Originally Posted by lee1989

hmm this may work for some people but in personal experience and due to mass forum scanning

depriving yourself of sleep so long is generally a bad way to enter a WILD, yes you have to be tired enough to allow yourself to sleep but you also need to be awake enough to stop your mind falling asleep before your physical body.

If you want to do this i reccomend going to sleep as usual, setting your alarm for approximately 4-5 hours after you predict you will fall to sleep and then when you wake up, try entering a WILD from that point, that seems to be getting the best responses from members. As i say though its personal opinion diffrent methods work better for diffrent people.

Maybe this is different for different people.

Have you ever been so overtired that your body tries to fire off its REM while you are awake? It's like your eyes start twitching a little, and if you close your eyes for a little bit (not sleeping) you start seeing things, and your mental to visual imagination is heightened.

For a regular WILD, I think there are still dreams and REM moments in the first 4 or 5 hours of sleep. Most of the time, even when I go to bed at my normal bedtime, I'll have a quick dream in the beginning of sleep, one that I usually only remember if I wake up right as it ends.

So, with the method I provided, I think more REM builds up, and the overtiredness builds up to provide for an easier instant transition to lucid dreams. Easier to fall asleep cause of over-tiredness. Easier to go right into a dream because of REM. Easier to stay asleep. Usually more vivid LDs cause of REM.


Also, I almost always have very vivid and long LDs when I don't get much sleep and have to take a nap in the afternoon.

Strange method, but I probably will try it some time.

I did something similar once. I heard that if you're sleep deprived, you'll have a REM rebound, so I stayed awake for almost 24 hours before going to sleep.
After about 5 minutes, I could already feel SP coming. I had a pretty nice WILD after that.

hmm i might try this method tommorow. but whats the difference between staying up five ours or just waking up after 5 hours

Ive had a lot of trouble WILDing so maybe ill give this a try... not on a sunday though.