Thread: The 90 Days WILD Project

@BigFan
Thanks for motivating me up.

However i think not getting out of bed is my problem. I did it every time i tried.(Well except 3 or 4 times) Thing which annoys me most is falling asleep. It's caused by lack of focus or i'm loosing it really quickly. After that i fall asleep. Second thing is excitement. I have never had any LD before (actually i had but really short one and i was half-lucid) so when i'm really close to success my heart starts beating faster and that keeps me awake.

Oh, and todays attempt. Woke up at 5:00AM but didn't get out of bed this time

Day 51, 52, 53:

No Success

Day 53, 54: no success, I've been so lazy lately I haven't even gotten out of bed to WILD =/

Originally Posted by BigFan

Nice, DILDs are as good as WILDs since they are LDs either way

Yeah i guess you're right, BigFan. Although, i usually prefer WILD's because they are longer and more vivid for me, and getting to the dream using WILD is an adventure in itself.

Day 53:

I didn't bother trying this time. I already have insomniac problems and the whole push the clocks forward an hour didn't help. So losing an hour due to daylights savings kicked my butt on this one. I didn't fall asleep until after 1:30 a.m. (after pushing the clock forward). On top of that, i had to get up early too. I was all motivated about doing WILD. I laid there for 2 maybe 2 and half hours before i fell asleep for the first time. Anyway, maybe i'll be adjusted to the time change now and have a better shot tonight.

Day 50: 3.13.10: Slept through WBTB alarm, oddly enough.
Day 51: 3.14.10: Thanks, Daylight Saving Time; made me accidentally set my alarm for AFTER I woke up, instead of while I was still asleep.
WILD attempt in the afternoon, HH formed scenes but not connected and prolonged ones, so I didn't get into sleep.

I think I've got this really close to where I want to be, so I'll keep on my WILDing this week and hopefully will have a success!

Day 54:

Fail. I woke up naturally to try WILD. The first time i woke up, it was only after 2 hours of sleep, which was too soon for WILD. I woke up again later, and first went to the bathroom. I went back to bed and put in my earplugs, but then i hit a problem. I had to wake up to go to school, and i needed to be able to hear my alarm. So during the process of finding a place for my alarm close to my head, i forgot to try WILD. I think i found a solution for my problem though, so just have to try again.

Originally Posted by Miomek

@BigFan
Thanks for motivating me up.

However i think not getting out of bed is my problem. I did it every time i tried.(Well except 3 or 4 times) Thing which annoys me most is falling asleep. It's caused by lack of focus or i'm loosing it really quickly. After that i fall asleep. Second thing is excitement. I have never had any LD before (actually i had but really short one and i was half-lucid) so when i'm really close to success my heart starts beating faster and that keeps me awake.

Oh, and todays attempt. Woke up at 5:00AM but didn't get out of bed this time

To me, it's my biggest problem as well, that and just falling asleep right after I go back to bed

Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow

Yeah i guess you're right, BigFan. Although, i usually prefer WILD's because they are longer and more vivid for me, and getting to the dream using WILD is an adventure in itself.

True, I am interested in WILDing because you get to experience SP(curious about what I'll get to hear, see, etc....) along with the fact that you enter the dream directly resulting in a longer time and having less of a problem of remembering the dream since my recall is still pretty bad As for more vivid, I haven't had many LDs let alone WILDs to compare to DILDs. The way I look at it is that you are trying to get LDs, so, getting a DILD is better than getting nothing Up to now, I am not too sure if I actually had a DILD or a lucid moment on my first day trying to WILD

Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow

Day 53:

I didn't bother trying this time. I already have insomniac problems and the whole push the clocks forward an hour didn't help. So losing an hour due to daylights savings kicked my butt on this one. I didn't fall asleep until after 1:30 a.m. (after pushing the clock forward). On top of that, i had to get up early too. I was all motivated about doing WILD. I laid there for 2 maybe 2 and half hours before i fell asleep for the first time. Anyway, maybe i'll be adjusted to the time change now and have a better shot tonight.

same here, moving the clock forward an hour messed up everything and it doesn't help that I have had early morning shifts the last couple of days I'll definitely motivate myself to try to WILD tonight regardless

Day 5: I think I woke up, put alarm off and then fell asleep again, so, I didn't WILD
Day 6: I woke up, put alarm off, got out of bed, did some simple stresses and when I went back in and laid on my side, I slept, so, again no WILDing

Day 12: Too short wbtb, failed.

Day 13: Semi-success:

Went up after 6 hours of sleep and stayed up for 10 minutes. I walked around inside my house and when I thought I was alert enough I went back to bed.

I started doing the 61-point relaxation technique, but I lost track of what I was doing pretty easily, thus I figured I wasn't alert enough. Nonetheless, after a short while I decided I was relaxed enough so I attempted for a regular WILD. I just waited there. After 10 minutes I switched position to my side. However, I went somewhat unconscious and fell asleep and had a semi-lucid dream. On one occation in my dream, when I was the most lucid, two girls knocked on the door of my house. I went to open it. First thing I did was to check if they were hot. They were. Almost unconsciously (I wasn't very lucid, didn't RC at all) I took my pants of and launched my dick into the air, upon which I woke up and the following weird thought popped up in my head: "whenever I expose my dick to a girl in a dream, I wake up, I shall not do that again". What I didn't realize was that I had a false awakening.

About an hour after WBTB I woke up for real, laid on my side and just relaxed. Like 10 seconds later a rush went through my body, followed by a sense of dislocation from my body. I got excited (damnit) and woke up too much. It was actually hard to fall asleep again. I didn't attempt any more WILDs during my last hour of sleep.

Next time, I'll try counting my breaths. Any other ideas on staying calm?

I haven't even been trying for about 5 days. I'm going to start over from day 1.

I found nice website about WILDing.(LINK)
It says that you should stay asleep for 10 hrs before attempt.
I wanted to try it out today but my mom was making too much noise.

Day 55: fail

Day 56: SUCCESS I gotta go to school now though, I'll write more details later.

Finally....
Great job Andres!

Day 56: Success
So I set my alarm to wake me up at 4:30. At 4:30 I woke up, and debated for about 10 seconds whether I should get out of bed or not, I was about to fall asleep but I jumpep out of bed, damn that took some effort. I went to the washroom, had a sip of water, went to my bedroom, did 30 pushups, then went to bed. I relaxed my body, then I started to fall asleep, when I was on the edge of falling asleep, I started counting, in less than 10 seconds Sleep Paralysis set in. SP lasted about 5-10 seconds, then I stood up, did a RC, I was dreaming . I had a FA during the dream though, I couldn't do much =/, I lost lucidity.

Originally Posted by Miomek

Finally....
Great job Andres!

Thanks Miomek

Too bad you lost lucidity. After so much effort...

BUT you did it and that's why i have a few questions.
How long did you sleep before your attempt?
How awake you were? Say on scale of 1 to 10.
How did you know you were "on the edge of falling asleep"?
And were you excited during the attempt?

Answer to any of these questions will be appreciated.

Awesome job Andres! I'm glad somebody else has gotten a success. If i did pushups, i would never go back to sleep.

Day 55:

I woke up naturally and went to the bathroom. I came back to bed and started WILDing. I tried kind of my own version of NSSWILD. In total, i probably rolled over about 5 or 6 times during the attempt. After trying and trying to fall asleep aware, i gave up and looked at the clock. I had been trying for over an hour and nothing. I guess i was just too awake. Maybe i should try going to the bathroom with my eyes closed again, so i won't be so awake. I guess getting up to go to the bathroom might be waking me up too much, but i really don't have an option. When i wake up, i HAVE to go. So maybe keeping my eyes closed is the solution.

Originally Posted by Miomek

Too bad you lost lucidity. After so much effort...

BUT you did it and that's why i have a few questions.
How long did you sleep before your attempt?
How awake you were? Say on scale of 1 to 10.
How did you know you were "on the edge of falling asleep"?
And were you excited during the attempt?

Answer to any of these questions will be appreciated.

- I went to bed at 11:30, so that is about 5 hours of sleep before the attempt
- When I went back to bed, it wasn't long until I was at about 3 in the scale (10 being fully awake), and when I WILDed, I would say I was at 2 (1 being completely asleep)
- I knew I was on the edge of falling asleep because I had lost consciousness almost completely, and because I recognized a pattern of HI's, I guess you could call them, that I see before falling asleep.
- When sleep paralysis hit me I thought, well I've been at this MANY times before, I just have to wait a few seconds and I'll stand up in my dream. It's the first time SP goes away so fast, about 10 seconds into SP my dream started.

Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow

Awesome job Andres! I'm glad somebody else has gotten a success. If i did pushups, i would never go back to sleep.

Thanks dark ! Haha, I've noticed we are completely opposite! You have trouble because it's really hard for you to go back to sleep, I have trouble because I fall asleep too easily

Good job Andres. Unexpected SP, huh? How did you manage to stay calm? What was your SP like?

I'm asking, because when I'm on the verge of SP, I get killer-excited and get super alert as though I rapidly had consumed large quantities of caffeine.

Congrats AndresLD Glad to hear that some here are succeeding. Only question I have is REM is supposed to be around 4:30 and again at 6, so, wouldn't waking up at 5 instead of 5:30 or possibly 4 be a bad idea? Reason I ask is that I do 5hr from sleeping, however, in my attempts, I haven't been able to reach SP yet and I usually just get up from my bed and go back in, in about 1 minute, so, I am not exactly fully awake, but, conscious enough to remember my attempt to WILD.

@dark_grimmjow I would do that. When you wake up, keep your eyes closed halfway as if you are still asleep. I've tried this before and it works provided you keep thinking to yourself that you are asleep

Day 7: Woke up at 5, put off alarm, did some stresses and fell back asleep. Tried again at 6:30, wasn't tired enough and real alarm clock rang Will try again tonight. WILDing for the win! Gotta love waking up at 5 in the morning to WILD

Thanks BohmaN and BigFan .

@BohmaN: Well, I don't know if they are considered HI's or not. But when I'm falling asleep I see abstract colours and shapes, most of the times it's just a black background with a kind of electric colour frame, hard to explain sorry. But my SP is... interesting, this is how it has been the past 5 or 6 times: It's nothing that starts happening gradually, in fact it happens suddenly. I actually think that when it hits me I'm about 95% asleep, but somehow still a little bit conscious to recognize it. I just hear a deep sound, see a white background, feel like I'm falling and rolling, being dragged towards the noise, I feel vibrations all throughout my body, and I feel a cold sweat spreading from my back to the rest of my body, also my body feels EXTREMELY heavy, but all this is somewhat relaxing. The weird thing is, it hits me suddenly, like one second I'm falling asleep, the next one all of the above are happening in my body. Also, I just stay calm, because I know that when it is over I just have to stand up and my dream will have started (All my WILDs start with me getting out of my bed, nose pinch -----> yup, I'm dreaming)

@BigFan: I'm not sure about REM periods, I know that they are different for everyone, but that everyone has from 4 to 6 REM periods per night (They get longer towards the end of your sleep). Your problem might have to do with your REM periods, I believe it is better to wake up at the very beggining, or during one of your REM periods (definitely not at the end of it, or close to the end of it). Your problem (like my problem, and mostl people's problem) might also be that you are not awake enough, so you actually fall asleep before SP sets in (That's why I do 30 push ups before going back to bed). To find out when your REM period is: write the time you go to bed (just so you don't forget it), drink a LOT of water before going to bed. At the end of each REM period we wake up, but most of the time we just fall asleep again without noticing. Since you have drank a lot of fluid, when you wake up from a REM cycle, you will become aware, from the urge you have to go to the bathroom. Look at the clock, and your REM might have started 10 to 25 minutes before that. Then the next morning you put your alarm at the time you suspected you REM cycle started.

Originally Posted by AndresLD

Day 56: Success
So I set my alarm to wake me up at 4:30. At 4:30 I woke up, and debated for about 10 seconds whether I should get out of bed or not, I was about to fall asleep but I jumpep out of bed, damn that took some effort. I went to the washroom, had a sip of water, went to my bedroom, did 30 pushups, then went to bed. I relaxed my body, then I started to fall asleep, when I was on the edge of falling asleep, I started counting, in less than 10 seconds Sleep Paralysis set in. SP lasted about 5-10 seconds, then I stood up, did a RC, I was dreaming . I had a FA during the dream though, I couldn't do much =/, I lost lucidity.

Congrats bro

Day 54, 55, 56;

No success

Originally Posted by AndresLD

Thanks dark ! Haha, I've noticed we are completely opposite! You have trouble because it's really hard for you to go back to sleep, I have trouble because I fall asleep too easily

Yeah, we're as different as night and day. I have a friend in one of my college classes who fell asleep in class today for about 30 minutes. That was until he snored himself awake. I wish i had that problem with my WILD attempts. I would rather fail and get some sleep than fail and lay there for an hour or more.