Thread: Programmed Universe - Within Another Universe

Originally Posted by Xei

Words are not objectively real; humans define them, not discover them. If we define soul in an equivalent way to consciousness, they're the same, if we don't, they're not.

Surely, words and concepts are stored SOMEHOW in our brains. Therefore, they are a physical part of the universe. If we define soul in an equivalent way to consciousness (as we understand it), they're the same. If we don't, they may not be, but we don't really know that, at all. It would depend on HOW you define "soul".

The following is a play on words to show why I do not understand your points. They are not necessarily statements based off of what I believe.

Originally Posted by Xei

Yeah I'm saying god plays dice. Or at least, there is no good reason that he shouldn't, and that is the simplest interpretation of quantum physics that we have.

Yeah I'm saying god does not play dice. Or at least, there is no good reason that he should, and that is the simplest interpretation of predetermination that we have.

Originally Posted by Xei

There's no reason reality on a fundamental scale should be explainable in terms of objects we find intuitive due to our familiarity with them on our scale.

There's no reason reality on a fundamental scale should be explainable in terms of prabability, due to our familiarity with it on our scale.

Originally Posted by Xei

The world looks non-probabilistic because that's the well-understood result of loads of probabilistic things happening together.

The world looks prababilistic because that's the well-understood result of loads of unprobabilistic things happening together.


The possibility of predetermination does not rely on having "a good reason", being explainable in terms of probability, familiarity, or how the world "looks". Furthermore, most of these factors will vary, depending on point of view. The world really doesn't "look" predetermined OR probabilistic to me.