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      What you're insinuating could not be further from the truth. I am simply asking someone to watch a video before making a judgment because the video articulates the idea better than I can and if you want to understand my argument, understand that it's coming from the video. Dismissing the video because you don't understand the science behind the Dynamo doesn't make you a scientist, it makes you a chicken with its head cut off.

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      I've been dismissing the video because it doesn't exist. That's why I told you to watch it.

      What you said about solar panels being dismissed in the past as a violation of thermodynamics is something you pulled directly from your anus, and like cmind says, even if it did have a trace of verisimilitude it wouldn't prove in any way that your claims are true.

      Now either provide some evidence that you can suck 'infinite energy' out of the atmosphere, or change your opinion. It would also be good if you could provide some historical evidence of Tesla ever claiming such a thing and his justification for it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Dumbass

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      Yeah the video still isn't there. I think there's actually something wrong with you.

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      Well shit man if you had watched it when I first posted it maybe you would have gotten a chance to see it. I'll go find another link.

      EDIT: Guess its got some copyright protection, here's the appropriate clip
      Last edited by Omnis Dei; 01-04-2012 at 06:01 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnis Dei View Post
      Well shit man if you had watched it when I first posted it maybe you would have gotten a chance to see it. I'll go find another link.
      Dumbass.

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      You could have told me it expired. Instead you have to say it doesn't exist. Why? Why do you have to say things in such a misleading way all the time? Why can't you participate in discussion without using ridicule?

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      Why are you still here after so severely embarrassing yourself?

      The video is a hilarious pile of utter crap made for credulous, paranoid hippies.

      Please stop posting in the science forum until you understand the basic ideas behind the Enlightenment.

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      Okay, you don't buy the Dynamo. You refuse to research the dynamo yourself to prove its validity. You reject any evidence or claims about it dismissively without even addressing the claim specifically or explaining what is wrong with it. You are the definition of pre-enlightenment humanity. If you wish to participate in the Science Forum, please remove your head from your ass and address claims being made like a Scientist, not a Dogmatist.

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      'The magnetic field is expanding and contracting, it's breathing, it's taking in the energy of space literally'...

      Did you ever go to school Omnis? What scientific knowledge do you have? I mean seriously, why is it that you listen wide-eyed to absolute shit like this? Why?

      Why do you still not understand how rationality works? Where's the goddamn evidence that any of this is true? Why do you keep ignoring this question?

      And have a wild guess why this Trombly guy doesn't just submit his device for peer review. What does he even mean, 'the government stole it'? Did they also steal the idea out of his brain to prevent him from just... telling everybody how it worked? The story is always the same with these people, it's so ridiculously transparent.

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      More dogmatism and ridicule, what a surprise. I don't mind if you don't care to entertain new ideas or possibilities, but at least stop bothering threads discussing these new ideas if you have nothing of value to add.

      Just because he's personifying the Torus doesn't mean he's calling it a person.

      You dismiss the idea of a government cover up in and of itself. This is also dogmatic.

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      Evidence or gtfo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by tommo View Post
      Dynamo maker ready to roll : Nature News & Comment

      Two rotating spheres separated by thousands of kilograms of liquid sodium aim to mimic Earth's interior.



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      Daniel Zimmerman is part of a team that has been working for ten years to simulate Earth's magnetic field.
      S. TRIANA
      The 3-metre-tall ribbed sphere looks like a 'visitor' from another planet, dramatically lit and encased within a sturdy steel box. In fact, the giant orb, housed in a cavernous warehouse at the University of Maryland, College Park, is meant to approximate Earth's core.
      Ten years in the making, the US$2-million project is nearly ready for its inaugural run. Early next year, the sphere will begin whirling around while loaded with 13,000 kilograms of molten sodium heated to around 105 C. Researchers hope that the churning, electrically conducting fluid will generate a self-sustaining electromagnetic field that can be poked, prodded and coaxed for clues about Earth's dynamo, which is generated by the movement of liquid iron in the outer core. If it works, it will be the first time that an experiment that mirrors the configuration of Earth's interior has managed to recreate such a phenomenon.
      “Dynamos are easy to generate in nature,” says project leader and experimental geophysicist Daniel Lathrop. “The same is not true for the lab.” Yet simulating this process in the laboratory will guide our understanding of processes that take place 3,000 kilometres below ground, at depths that can be probed only indirectly — by analysing seismic waves that have travelled through Earth's deep interior, for example.
      “There's no way for us to measure anything near the core directly,” says Lathrop. “It exceeds the deepest well by a factor of 100.”


      Here, have an OP.

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      Not remotely related to your claims.

      Evidence or gtfo.

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      That's my exact claim.

      Here, have a link that was in the OP

      MHD & Dynamo | Dan Lathrop's Nonlinear Dynamics Lab
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      Everybody knows planets have magnetic fields. Not related to your videos.

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      The implications of mimicking the EM field is access to a new source of energy.

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      Evidence or gtfo.

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      Why do you suppose they're trying to replicate a self-sustaining magnet?

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      Self-sustaining magnets are more commonly known as 'magnets'. If you own a fridge you can probably go see some there. You can't get energy out of them. The experiment in the OP is about some rather fundamental issues to geology.

      Provide evidence for 'free energy' or gtfo.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Self-sustaining magnets are more commonly known as 'magnets'. If you own a fridge you can probably go see some there. You can't get energy out of them. The experiment in the OP is about some rather fundamental issues to geology.

      Provide evidence for 'free energy' or gtfo.
      So you're saying the Earth's EM field does not emit energy?

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      What do you mean, emit energy?

      The Earth's magnetic field is practically stationary, so the potential to extract energy from it is negligible. Here's some science: Power from the Earth's Magnetic Field : Built on Facts

      Now please provide some evidence for your claims or gtfo. Surely you have some... why else would you have made the claims?

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      Holy crap, you actually think I'm not replying to that because it was a good post? That's it, from now on you will be referred to as Dunning Kruger.

      What does an obscure article on superconductors have to do with free energy? Why do you keep posting random and irrelevant material which you apparently haven't even read? Don't reply without an answer.
      Last edited by Xei; 01-09-2012 at 02:17 PM.

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      Once again your dumb ass is creating an argument to refute out of thin air. My argument has always been that we can obtain energy from transformers similar to Tesla's hypothesis of Radiant Energy, as exemplified in the links above. You decided I was talking about free energy because it that's the terminology they use in the Thrive film. Free energy is a misnomer, and I was the first to point this out.

      Now please explain how the transformers I have linked you to are not possible. Otherwise GTFO.

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