Quote Originally Posted by Hercuflea View Post
Ok, im putting this question out, and going to bed, and when i get back i am sure that all you Big Bang Gang Bangers will be all over this thread. I see a dilemma when people that tell us in our classrooms and televisions, that matter and energy cannot be created or destroyed, but they can only change forms.

These same people turn around and tell us that everything just popped out of nothing at the beginning of "time." All of the matter in space and time was suddenly just "came out of a small ball of condensed particles." But, where did those particles come from. By the very theory of the Big Bang, the matter was so condensed that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING could escape the gravity pull. So, how could it have exploded, or by other means expanded into what we now see as the universe? It had to have had a first cause, an initial push by a more powerful entity. (note: i am not a christian, so dont think im one of these good ol boy types or whatever.) If, by the very laws of the universe, matter cannot be created or destroyed, then the Big Bang cannot have happened by its own power. There WAS a creator involved.
I think the main problem with the "matter couldn't have come from nowhere" criticism of the Big Bang theory has to do with our perspective as humans. We only know so much about the state of the universe before space/time were "created". I may be behind the times, but I don't think science has completely reached a consensus on what (if anything) was actually before the Big Bang, so we are left with the cliffhanger notion that "there was nothing."

To me, the argument is the same as saying "a 7-foot, 300lb man couldn't have come from the unity of a microscopic sperm and an egg which is just barely visible to the naked eye." It's a problem of perspective. If one is not aware of the nutritional process, and the way a body forms and grows from practically nothing, then it would seem an impossibility.

I'm sure there is more to the "universe coming from nothing" paradigm than we have - as of yet - been able to discern.